RW Vitaly Kravtsov - Traktor Chelyabinsk, KHL (2018, 9th, NYR)

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  1. ChadS

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    8 months is not 1 year. What's your max range in age difference that allows comparing?
     
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    I didn’t originally realize people were comparing the two over the rookie of the year, I just generally said that Tolvanen was older. Point being, Kravtsov is still in D year and has recently shown another gear to his game.
     
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    Okay, sorry I misunderstood too. I'm a fan of Kravtsov and hope the Wings pick him up with the Vegas pick if he's still on the board. Going by talent alone, he should be gone by then.

    Anyway, the age thing is an interesting discussion on its own. If the draft was by birth year, there could be more late birthday steals. Kravtsov eligible last summer? Maybe not in the 1st round discussion although he did have a good year.
     
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    Measurements from the Combine: 6'2.75", 184 lbs
     
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    The KHL a development league?
     
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    Why not? If you aren't the best in the world, you're a development league, a sad truth about any sport.
     
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    Because in order to be a developmental league, one of the main goals of the league needs to be developing players for something better. I seriously doubt feeding the NHL is high on any KHL exec's list...
     
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    Kravtsov or Wahlstrom?
     
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    Wahlstrom easily.

    With that said, I would be thrilled if Kravtsov falls to the Leafs at 25.

    I don't see Wahlstrom falling out of the top 10-12.
     
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    Kravtsov plays a more complete game, but because Whalstrom's shot is so damn elite, I still give him the edge. That guy can be a 40 goal scorer in the league.
     
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    Kravtsov by a spot on my draft board.
     
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    There are so many future 40 goal scorers every draft, and then they disappear somewhere.
     
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    Wahlstrom, by nature that he isn't playing in Russia, will go ahead of Kravtsov.
     
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    also the fact that wahlstrom is better might be one of the leading reasons for him likely going ahead of kravtsov
     
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    Is that a fact or we talking about opinions?
     
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    true facts
     
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    This has flyers written all over him at 14
     
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    Which ones in particular? How does Wahlstrom numbers translate from USNDTP to say Kravtsov that moved into a scoring line in a mens league?
     
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    Nah, a true fact is Wahlstrom will stop playing hockey in two years.
     
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    "Craig Button, TSN resident director of scouting, NHL analyst and a former NHL general manager, said Denisenko reminds him a lot of Tampa Bay Lightning forward Nikita Kucherov.
    "I love Denisenko's creativity, he can make plays and finish plays," Button said. "I think Kravstov is a scoring winger. He's going to need the puck on the move and when he gets the puck on the move he's got the size to get things done, but I think his game is more narrow than Denisenko's. Denisenko can score in multiple ways, off the rush, in tight, off the cycle, and he's incredibly imaginative and hungry to score.
    "In my opinion, Kravstov has to get the puck on the move and needs a center that's going to distribute it to him. Denisenko has a multi-platform game."

    Scouts split over best Russian forwards ahead of NHL Draft

    Does Button mean goals like this?

     
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    Btw, it has been reported that Kravtsov had interviews with 25 teams at the Combine.
     
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    Yeah, forgot about it, but fixed now.
     
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    How does he compare to recent first rounder Denis guryanov?
     
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    Kravtsov is better
     
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    Kravtsov produced in the KHL, so there's that.

    He seems to me like a Gurianov with a hockey IQ.
     

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