RW Kaapo Kakko - TPS, Liiga (2019 Draft) Part 4

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He's a Legend already.

Put him in the HHOF now. ;);););)


But seriously, he might end up being more popular than Lundqvist.

And yes. He WILL be dominant 'cause...well....he is.


I've seen the highlights.

This young man is ready to basically turn a Rangers rebuild into a Bubble Playoff team by himself.
 

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He might be a Devil, who knows? When Shero was interviewed after his team won the lottery, he didn't seem to full on agree with the host lady when she said "how will Hughes impact your team?". She didn't say exactly that but something like it.
 

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He might be a Devil, who knows? When Shero was interviewed after his team won the lottery, he didn't seem to full on agree with the host lady when she said "how will Hughes impact your team?". She didn't say exactly that but something like it.
Pretty sure all signs from the Devils have signaled Hughes. Honestly, they might as well start the draft at 3 this year. The first two picks were decided the second the top 2 were revealed.
 

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He might be a Devil, who knows? When Shero was interviewed after his team won the lottery, he didn't seem to full on agree with the host lady when she said "how will Hughes impact your team?". She didn't say exactly that but something like it.
He did an interview with Friedman and Marek on their podcast and said things like “it’s great to have an opportunity to draft a player like Jack Hughes”, said Hughes’ name a bunch, didn’t mention Kakko once
 
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I think Kakko can be really good center if his team wants to make him one. He can carry his own line even as a winger. He is smart and hardworking kid who is fully trying to make himself better every day. This winter he have still skated at outdoor rinks and has that joy to play.

It would be fun to see him skate next year at Bryant park while setting up league on fire.
 

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Kakko has developed out of this world during the season and I think he could impress so much at the WC. And how come I havent read somewhere about kakko being in the discussion as generational? Dahlin had it last year and kakko scored freakin 23 goals in hes last 29 games?? Its insane even to think of, stats dont tell you all but we all know what kind of impact Kakko had on tps. Its not like anyone would say that kakko could have had lesser goals eighter infact he could have scored a bunch more with hes positioning and skill with the right passes. And no one would dare to say he could have had lesser assists eighter? The fact is everywhere, Kakko has dunne something no one else has ever dunne before in Liiga. How is that not generational? If it might just be that he is generational right now as a prospect so be it. But what has a finnish player do to be recognized as a generational talent? Please tell me someone why is kakko not considered generational?
 

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Kakko has developed out of this world during the season and I think he could impress so much at the WC. And how come I havent read somewhere about kakko being in the discussion as generational? Dahlin had it last year and kakko scored freakin 23 goals in hes last 29 games?? Its insane even to think of, stats dont tell you all but we all know what kind of impact Kakko had on tps. Its not like anyone would say that kakko could have had lesser goals eighter infact he could have scored a bunch more with hes positioning and skill with the right passes. And no one would dare to say he could have had lesser assists eighter? The fact is everywhere, Kakko has dunne something no one else has ever dunne before in Liiga. How is that not generational? If it might just be that he is generational right now as a prospect so be it. But what has a finnish player do to be recognized as a generational talent? Please tell me someone why is kakko not considered generational?
Because of the north american hype and bias.
Hughes is seen as number 1 so anything below is not talked about.

Dahlin was seen as generational because no one came close to him at the draft.

If Kakko was north american, you can guarentee there would be a much bigger media hype on who would go 1st OA and that both are elite / generational prospects
 

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Great prospect to follow. An amazing offensive asset to any team. Still gutted the Avs didn't had the first or second pick.
 
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Kakko has developed out of this world during the season and I think he could impress so much at the WC. And how come I havent read somewhere about kakko being in the discussion as generational? Dahlin had it last year and kakko scored freakin 23 goals in hes last 29 games?? Its insane even to think of, stats dont tell you all but we all know what kind of impact Kakko had on tps. Its not like anyone would say that kakko could have had lesser goals eighter infact he could have scored a bunch more with hes positioning and skill with the right passes. And no one would dare to say he could have had lesser assists eighter? The fact is everywhere, Kakko has dunne something no one else has ever dunne before in Liiga. How is that not generational? If it might just be that he is generational right now as a prospect so be it. But what has a finnish player do to be recognized as a generational talent? Please tell me someone why is kakko not considered generational?

Ray Ferraro stated nicely during 2016 WJC that Puljujärvi, Laine and Juolevi might become generational players for Finland. I bet that statement was, not only bcuz they were in flames on that tournament, but also bcuz Finland didnt have overwhelming depth at the time back then (it definetly going right direction talent-wise nowadays).

The things that Kakko has done so far are unquestionably marvelous to his age and he is on his way to that group of guys (that was mentioned back then) and even beyond. I think when we talk about someone being generational takes some more time to actually use it even nationally.

As a D-eligible tho he has record-breaking ssn in FEL and he definetly deserves to be noticed at the same company as former Finnish U-18 stars (Barkov, Laine, Rantanen, Aho, Granlund to just name a few). However its not likely the same situation necessarily to say hes steps ahead clearly to those atleast yet before NHL to say he will be the best scoring Finn in the nhl or best overall in the future. Tho that very well might even be the case, when consider how complete he is already, and theres not rly glaring weaknesses in his game. I mean its not like similar type of situation that Anze Kopitar clearly is a generational for Slovenia or Thomas Vanek is for Austria, cuz the competition is in a totally different lvl comparing to other fellow countrymen.

But if Barkov is able to put 96 pts in a ssn with high lvl performance in every zone I dont doubt why Kakko culdnt beat those pts or play similar type of ssns as best finnish NHLers do.
 

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If Kakko was north american, you can guarentee there would be a much bigger media hype on who would go 1st OA and that both are elite / generational prospects

I don't like the vague term "generational" to start with, but whatever it's supposed to mean Hughes and Kakko aren't it.
 
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I don't like the vague term "generational" to start with, but whatever it's supposed to mean Hughes and Kakko aren't it.

Please tell me why you think that? What would have made you to change youre mind? I just think that as we speek he should be watched as generational, The future is the future and now is now. As a 17-18 year old kid what would he have to do for you to see him as generational?
 

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Better pre-draft accomplishments, Hughes has been broadly on par with Auston Matthews which is very good but not something beyond that. Kakko in turn is performing similar to Patrik Laine which is very good too, but not beyond the level that is available pretty much every year.
 

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Please tell me why you think that? What would have made you to change youre mind? I just think that as we speek he should be watched as generational, The future is the future and now is now. As a 17-18 year old kid what would he have to do for you to see him as generational?
There hasn’t been true generational players more than a very small handful like Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr and maybe Howe, Jagr, Lidström and Crosby. And maybe as generational goalscorers Maurice Richard, Brett Hull and Ovechkin. And if you believe that goalies can be thought of as being generational, then maybe Roy and Hasek. Thinking of McDavid or any present player or upcoming prospect as a truly generational player is completely laughable. To be generational you need to be a very clearly head and shoulders better player than practically all players from your own player generation. Sometimes extremely rarely two generational (or at least debatably generational) players have even overlapped with their careers, but that has been extremely rare, like with Gretzky and Lemieux, Lemieux and Jagr or Hasek and Roy.

Sorry, but Kakko is definitely not a generational player or even a generational prospect. He would need to be even clearly more special to really be considered as anything like that. I think if a Finnish kid could dominate at his age already in Liiga by clearly winning the scoring race and helping his team almost single handedly to Liiga Championship, then there could be maybe talks of him being a truly generational player in the making.

But then he would need to also dominate in a very clear fashion right away in the NHL and continue to become the clear top player in the whole league in already the first two or three NHL seasons that he plays. I absolutely don’t see this happening with Kakko, or with any other Finnish youngster that we know of at the moment, or for that matter any young player that we know of any nationality in the world at the moment. The term generational is used way too easy and in a sloppy way. I would honestly prefer to not even use it at all, as it is anyway varying with it’s meaning with whom is using it.
 
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One generation is about 25 years long? To say that every generational player need to dominate the league as Gretzky or lemieux is stupid cuz its a totaly different era, IF you where to believe that say crosby or ovechkin will be the best players in the nhl between 2006-2030 or atleast be one of the best would that not make them generational? The young kids today will probably talk about alot of other players when they think generational. I believe that McDavid will be one with out a hunch. I dont see why you would have to totaly dominate a league to be seen as generational. Like Gretzky era nhl was fkn beer league.. Cant even compare it even just a little. And talentwise there is more generational players then you seam to think. Id say the top 10 ranked players in the nhl and those who stay ranked as top 10 for like 15 years in their generation should be considered generational. But maybe thats just me butting that Word to context for what it really are?
 
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