ruutu vs zherdev... longterm potential

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  1. ginblossoms

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    first off, i'll admit this is for fantasy hockey purposes... :)

    i want to know who you guys think has better long term offensive potential. ruutu has been playing much better of late (i haven't had a chance to see him on tv though), and zherdev has looked impressive so far. granted they play different styles, but i was thinking zherdev as more of a superstud offensive force than ruutu... short term, the nod goes to ruutu i think (mainly 'cause of zherdev's uncertain arbitration situation).
     
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    In the long run, I think that Zherdev will have a more points in his career then Tuomo Ruutu..IMO.
     
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    I'd go with Zherdev. Not only is he an awesome player himself, he'll be playing with Nash for the next 10 years.
     
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    Ruutu, leader and good in the playoffs.
     
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    how can you say that he never play in a playoff game in the NHL. and will not till 2-3 years.
     
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    I like Ruutu, but Chicago is going nowhere. Columbus looks to be a great team soon, I'd go with Zherdev.
     
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    I say Zherdev...he looks very impressive.
     
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    I'd say Zherdev will probably be the better offensive player, but Ruutu will own in his own end.
     
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    I'd say Zherdev...

    Not only he has more Offensive potential, his defensive awareness lacks are a lot less important than we eard.

    Ruutu for sure will his team captain soon and is a little more the complete package.

    Never forget that Zherdev will play with Nash for a long time.

    BJ21
     
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    I like Zherdev but I'm going with Ruutu. I think Ruutu will give you more pims, a higher +/- and even more goals.
     
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    Ruutu hands down. he has immense potential and he shows the gifts he posseses so naturally. It doesnt show on the score sheet but he'll silently be one of the best players in his prime in the mold of Peter Forsberg
     
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    [sarcasm] great... no clear consensus... gee, thanks guys... [/sarcasm]

    whatever happens at zherdev's arbitration hearing will clear things up. btw, i'm the one with ruutu right now, and i'd have to add a little more to get zherdev.
     
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    Players exerce leadership qualities before they win their first cup, up to this point in both their careers, Ruutu has shown those attributes, and Zherdev is far from having done that. I think Ruutu will be good in the playoffs, and he has a lot more intangibles than Zherdev.
     
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    I like Ruutu, it seems like Zherdev is obviously the more exciting player out of the two but to win games you need to play defense as well and Ruutu does just that as well will produce offense. Overall i think Ruutu will produce slightly lower points in his career something like a 60-70 range, but will do a good job in his end and Zherdev i think has the potential to range in something like a 80+ range, but would you be willing to sacrafice 10 pts more for a player that plays poorly in his own end...
     
  15. For fantasy purposes, I'd give Ruutu for Zherdev.

    Long term, I think Z will be the flashier player, but I like Ruutu's intangibles---guy looks like a leader on a young, rebuilding Hawks team.

    He sure looked good here in Columbus the other night. :(
     
  16. Sorry, I didn't see your post before I posted. Looks like I pretty much echoed what you said---but you said it much better than I did. :)
     
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    I like Ruutu's game quite a bit, but comparing him to Forsberg? At this point, Ruutu has shown nothing to indicate he has the pure offensive skills of Forsberg. As others of said, he'll certainly develop into a 60-80 point player, but I don't see any 100-point seasons in his future.
     
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    Ruutu has a lot of intangibles that will make him a very good captain. Intensity, Offense, Crashing the net, Defense (although you wouldn't know it from his +/-), and heart. He reminds me of a Jeremy Roenick.

    It all depends wHo would you rather have on your team? Roenick or Bure??
     
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    Agreed completley, on one hand you got Zherdev the flashy high scoring winger that plays pretty poor defense and other the other you got Ruutu the well rounded centre with strong leadership qualities...

    As i said in the earlier post i prefer Ruutu
     
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    It's not like Ruutu doesn't have skill as well.

    I love both prospects alot! But Ruutu is my man on this one.

    Ruutu is no Foppa.... I see his upside around 70 points, but he does things not many others can do. The intangibles are there as other said. Roenick is a good comparison mentally. But Zherdev is not a bad one either, he's got amazing skill, sick skill. He's also has this competivness that I just love and that drives players to be the best.

    Both are excelent prospects. Close but i'll take Ruutu.
     
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    I much prefer Ruutu but since the poster asked about offense for fantasy purpose (wrong forum, BTW), I would give Zherdev the edge here.
     
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    hehe... yeah, i realize that... but the prospects board gets MUCH MORE traffic, and the two guys are still 'prospects'... kinda sorta
     
  23. Granted, Z won't be a Selke nominee any time soon, but we who get to watch him on a regular basis here in Columbus have been pleasantly surprised w/his defensive efforts.

    I don't think his D skills are any worse than most 19-year olds playing their first year in the league.
     
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