Ensane said:
With all the hype surrounding Ruutu, I figured I'd throw this one out, as I was thinking about it during my 3 hour history lecture today.
Many people thought Frolov would easily win the Calder and amass a nice amount of points for a rookie. I'm seeing parallels between their respective hype, just one year apart.
There are similarities in hype, yes and no. Hype for both players came from abroad. I don't really trust what I don't see.
Hype for Frolov, unlike Ruutu, also came from his showing at the WJC. He was a man against boys and it impressed a lot of people but not me. Not saying Frolov ain't good but some were whispering "Jaromir Jagr" and that was just ridiculous.
Ruutu has not had one WJC where he truly was a notch above other prospects.
I see more parallels in hype between Pitkanen and Frolov, for instance.
Ensane said:
And please, to those answering ... please backup what you think. If I wanted a poll, I woulda added one to the thread.
It's going tough to answer because you haven't asked a question. The whole "Player X VS Player Y" is becoming more frequent and I don't see a use unless there is a context.
All I can say at this point is that the minute I saw Ruutu, I knew he was the kind of guy who would do his all to elevate his game, I just wasn't sure he could elevate it all the way against the best in the NHL.
It's pretty much the opposite feeling I had when I saw Frolov. I knew the minute I saw him at that WJC that he had all the tools to play against the best. I'm just not that sure he'll elevate his game and become a top dog in the NHL.
Both will be fine. I think Ruutu will become a favorite, Frolov may be one day *perceived* as an underachiever but his talent will keep him around in this league, no doubt.
I don't think Ruutu on talent alone can become a superstar. Intangibles may get him there, however. Frolov on the other hand has the raw talent but I haven't seen him use it to its fullest so far, EVEN at the WJC.
Both should do great in the future. They have stuff every team is after:
Ruutu is one of the best combo of grit+talent+leadership+two-way play while Frolov is a potentially great offensive force with the size to boot.
They've just been advertised too much IMO, just like Ryan Miller and Zetterberg.