Value of: Rust and Dumoulin

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  1. Boondock Registered User

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    you must of accidently hit "post reply" before you finished typing what else the Pens were adding.
     
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    Rust & Dumo for Miller is just as crazy. Both would get a 1st + prospect & Rust would get a roster player on top of that.
     
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    Well good job with responding to crazy with crazy - mission accomplished.
     
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    I never asserted mine was crazy. I would say maybe without the 2nd is debatable. Both are on sweetheart contracts as well.
     
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    I would have no interest in Zucker. At $5.5 over the next 3 seasons he has negative value to a Canuck team that already has over 30% of its total cap space occupied by the 4th line, press box or Utica. I would honestly rather keep Virtanen and hope he rebounds to the 20ish goal scorer he looked like last season. I don't see Zucker's contract getting better as he moves into his 30's. At least JV is 24 and only has 1 more year on his deal. If the Canucks are desperate for a 20goal/40 pt winger they will re-sign Pearson for far less than the 5.5 Zucker is making. I also wouldn't trade Miller for Dumo 1 for 1.
     
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    f***ing yikes if you're judging defensemen based on how many powerplay points they get :laugh:
     
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    Already responded to this a few posts back. Just 1 example of some overall deficiencies that prevent a player from having top pairing value. I see Dumo similarly to how I viewed Tanev for the Canucks. Could compliment a top pairing, but lacked all the tools required to carry a top pairing. As I said before, Benn plays with Hughes, Benn - not a top pairing d-man. Not sure why this concept is difficult to understand.
     
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    Has Benn won 2 Stanley Cups while playing in a top pair role against the best of the other teams?
     
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    We'll have to agree to disagree. Would be pretty dumb to trade a top pairing dman making $4 a season.
     
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    Penguins should definitely tear it down. If i were them I would be trying to shoot for a top 5 draft pick this year.
     
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    Does your enter key not work?
     
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    This is kinda derailed :laugh:

    I just wanna know what comparable forwards opposing fans think would fit a 1 for 1 trade with Dumo
     
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    Which is why they most likely dont move him, but its moving from a position of strength. The Pens are super deep on the Left side for many years. Dumo is the oldest even if he is only 29, so he makes the most sense to move. POJ has prove he can take his spot and Riikola is great depth.

    Dumo
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    Poj
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    What’s the price on Pettersson?
     
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    Probably a comperable young forward with some upside.
     
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    Gaudette?
     
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    While I do like Gaudette, I think you'd have to add, as Pety has shown he can handle a top 4 role, pluss you'd be over the cap with a move like that i think. Would you add Virtanen?
     
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    I would if the Penguins threw in a 3rd.

    Or Gaudette+Motte for Pettersson
     
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    I don't think Hextall is looking to move picks, as our prospect pool is as shallow as a puddle on a sunny day :laugh:
     
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    Would you do Gaudette+Motte then?

    Juolevi would also available, but I’m not sure I would trade him with Gaudette for Pettersson.
     
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    No, Motte doesn't really move the needle for me. We don't have a 3rd this year either, so if it had to be included for Virtanen, it would have to be a 2022 pick..
     
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    A 2022 pick is fine with me.
     
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    At worst Dumoulin is a 2nd pairing LD and Rust since last season is a ppg player 71 - 33 - 38 - 71 pts .
    Hextall/ Pittsburgh won't and shouldn't trade either player.
     
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    Dumoulin carried Ron Hainsey to a Stanley Cup.
     
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    POJ has played 12 games, that's not proving much of anything at this point. He did handle himself fairly well, but still. 12 games.
     

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