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Um..I believe it will be the NHL and the Washington Capitals trying to get Ovechkin's ass over here.And It's AO that dreams of playing in the NHL.So yes it is all about the NHL.MaV said:It's not all about NHL .
Um..I believe it will be the NHL and the Washington Capitals trying to get Ovechkin's ass over here.And It's AO that dreams of playing in the NHL.So yes it is all about the NHL.MaV said:It's not all about NHL .
Mr.Brownov said:Um..I believe it will be the NHL and the Washington Capitals trying to get Ovechkin's ass over here.And It's AO that dreams of playing in the NHL.So yes it is all about the NHL.
Do explain..jekoh said:The NHL's made Ovechkin what he is today, yeah right.
I'm talking about the pros in the game today.
I guess Russian clubs (and fans) would be much better off if Fedorov or Markov were not "recognized" in NA...
Mr.Brownov said:Wow you're a Pejorative Slur!I assume with a name like jepjeppoo,you must be some kinda chinese arab!
jekoh said:Isn't that how it works in football ? It's far from perfect, but it works and I'd say it sounds better than anything the NHL would come up with, unless they eventually accept to pay the right price.
Blind Gardien said:I dunno, I think the hockey situation is quite different than football, in that one league, the NHL, is so superior to all the other leagues in the world. It tends to reduce all the other leagues to the de facto status of "feeder leagues" for the NHL. The players themselves generally therefore have a legitimate desire to progress into the most competitive league and to reach their fullest potential as players, and for most, that means going to the NHL.
I know that isn't much comfort to the fans of Dynamo Moscow, but in a way, what are they really expecting? Should Sidney Crosby keep playing in Rimouski until he's 21 just because the fans there really enjoy him and they have his junior rights? Should Trent Hunter, Michael Ryder, or Andrew Raycroft have kept on giving the fans in Bridgeport, Hamilton, or Providence something to cheer about?
Jaded-Fan said:Just out of curiosity, do you all think that whatever fees are agreed to should be paid by the drafting club or from pool established by the NHL? There is no compensation for a player drafted from America, Canada, Western Europe. And how would that effect a salary cap is one is enacted?
Epsilon said:Apples and oranges. Dynamo Moscow is a professional team, in a professional league, with no affiliation to any NHL team. It's players are signed to legally valid professional services contracts. The CHL is a developmental league which pays it's players a nominal salary, has rules about age limits, and already gets a pretty good deal from the NHL with regards to transfers and favouritism. The AHL players are under contract to their NHL teams, not the AHL teams they play for (which are funded by those NHL teams specifically to develop these players for use in the NHL).
Jaded-Fan said:Just out of curiosity, do you all think that whatever fees are agreed to should be paid by the drafting club or from pool established by the NHL? There is no compensation for a player drafted from America, Canada, Western Europe. And how would that effect a salary cap is one is enacted?
Epsilon said:It's very different than football so I don't think people should use that comparison either. People have to remember that ALL transfers in football are cash deals and so they can be inherently bigger because the cash a team gains will largely just be spent on more players. A good comparison that had been brought up, however, is Japanese baseball which is a professional league at a lower level to MLB. Players are bought out at large costs if they are currently under contract when a team wants to bring them over.
Mr.Brownov said:Do explain..
jekoh said:My point was that "if the NHL didn't bring them across seas", the Fedorovs and Markovs would be playing in Russia. Now I'm not an owner of a Russian club, but I guess a league with all those players would be likely to generate more revenue.
MaV said:Now, the teams were asking to move the deadline to 15th on July for previously drafted players. AFAIK NHL had no problem with this, they were ready to do that, and it wouldn't really be a problem as the players they usually sign are not going to get a roster spot straight away anyway, so they don't have to know how things develop with their other players. NHLPA didn't like this idea however, so they had to keep the date on July.
Jussi said:You mean they were trying to get the deadline moved up to June 15th, not July?
Petey21 said:And I could be wrong as I don't know all the details about the old deal, but what I've heard is that there was a given amount of money that all European teams that lost players to the NHL would split? Meaning that if there was only ONE player coming from Europe they'd get the whole amount, but if there were 100 all teams would split that money and get basically nothing per player. That's just plaid ridiculous and I hope the IIHF will NEVER EVER agree on such a lousy deal again!
Petey21 said:Remember that Ovechkin is under a contract with Dynamo Moscow, and if he wants to leave for the NHL, and Washington wants him so bad, then it's his employers that should set the actual transfer fee, not the buyer. It's not like people go to the grocery store and buy groceries and tell the people that work there "Well, I want this stuff, and you'll have to accept the money I'll pay you for it", and then give them a couple bucks for food worth $20. So why should this be any different? It should always be the team that owns the player that sets the price they think is right (some teams might have a higher price on a certain player than others would, depending on how important he is to their team).