Russia U20 National Team - WJC-2019

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  1. MaxV Registered User

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    Well, now that the medal streak is over, hopefully they start a new one next year. It has become an annual tradition to start this thread as soon as the tournament is over for Russia and I'm all about tradition. :)

    I'm leaving off Kostin and Svechnikov, as it's possible that they might be in NHL this time next year. I know it's very early and usually the roster looks very different then guesses, but I'll give a try:

    Kravtsov-Khovanov-Bitsadze
    Maximov-Lipanov-Shafigullin
    Zavgorodny-Koltygin-Shen
    Denisenko-Marushev-Anokhovskiy

    Alexeyev-Samorukov
    Galenyuk-Zhuravlyov
    Kalabushkin-Perelyayev
    Rubinchik-Morozov

    Tarasov
    Zhukov
    Ustimenko
     
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    NA players should have to be really good to make this team, younger players need more of a chance. I also think there needs to be some changes. Either Bragin is fired or he adapts his approach. 13F, 7D, no 12F, 8D. Also, there needs to be defined roles. You don't put your best players with grinders and not put your best players on the PP.

    I think Svechnikov will be in the NHL. Kostin could be, but St. Louis already has guys like Thomas and Kyrou who also could, and I think he's probably behind both in the pecking order to make their team next season.

    Bitsadze-Lipanov-Kostin
    Denisenko-Khovanov-Kravtsov
    Shafigullin-Guskov-Maximov
    Kotkov-Koltygin-Anokhovskiy
    Shen

    First two lines are highly skilled, and should get a lot of time. Third line has two good wingers, but I think it would help to include the draft eligible Guskov who could be one of the 2019 draft's early picks. He also plays center, and is very good at the position, which should help this team, which lacks centers. The 4th line has some defensive ability and size.

    Morozov-Samorukov
    Alexeyev-Rodionychev
    Galenyuk-Khabarov
    Zhuravlyov

    I think this defense has some puck moving, some size, some defense, some offense. It also has a good mix of older and younger players.

    Zhukov
    Tarasov
    Ustimenko

    I think all three keepers are good. All three could be the starter. It should be a good competition, and a strong position for Russia next year.
     
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    Which Guskov is this?
     
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    IMO, it will look like....
    F:
    Bitsadze-Lipanov-Kravtsov
    Zaseda-Marushev-Maksimov
    Shafigulin-Muranov--Toropchenko
    Denisenko-Shen-Slepets
    Koltigyn-
    Svechnikov and Kostin ???
    D:
    Morozov-Samorukov
    Alexeyev-Rodionychev
    Galenyuk-Khabarov
    Zhuravlyov-Dedov
    OLSHANSKY-Rubinchink
    KALABUSHKIN-Perelyayev

    GK:
    Zhukov
    Tarasov
    Ustimenko
     
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    guys like Alexander Romanov, Stepan Starkov, Kirill Popov , Daniil Skorikov ,NIKITA ANOKHOVSKY , NIKITA A. ROZHKOV , Alexander Khovanov , NIKOLAI KOVALENKO could also do the team
     
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    Same age Svechnikov is this tournament, same age Dahlin is this tournament, same age Kupari is this tournament, same age Lauko is this tournament, or would you prefer another underperforming CHL'er or a 19 year old who has yet to play in the KHL?
     
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    I would prefer Sokolov to return 20 pounds overweight, dressed like Augustus Gloop.
     
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    Biggest question here is who will be the coach - medias are speculating that Bragin won't continue in the U20. If it is true, then it is very likely that Golubovich will be the new coach, as 99 borns are his kids... although I'd like to see Koreshkov taking those duties, he is without a job now and has some good experience both with Bragin and Varnakov.

    Anyway, if it is Golubovich, then it is pretty simple :sarcasm: :

    (assuming Svechnikov and Kostin are not available)

    Chekhovich-Lipanov-Shen
    Alexeyev-Bitsadze-Toropchenko
    Maksimov-Koltygin-Slepets/Kravtsov
    Muranov-Marushev/Anokhovskiy-Lobanov

    Samorukov-Rubinchik
    Alexeyev-Baranov
    Galenyuk-Kalabushkin
    Perelyayev-Morozov

    Tarasov
    Zhukov/Ustimenko
    Raiko
     
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    Tarasov, Zhukov, Miftakhov

    Samorukov - Rodionychev
    Alexeyev - Morozov
    Okhotyuk - Zhuravlyov
    Galenyuk - Olshanskiy

    Kravtsov - Koltygin - Kostin
    Chekhovich - Khovanov - Maximov
    Denisenko - Lipanov - Kotkov
    Zavgorodniy - Bitsadze - Sokolov
    Anokhovskiy
     
  12. MaxV Registered User

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    No, Caser, no way....
















    ....would he be only a third stringer.
     
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    Only three right handed shots? Curious why you didn't include Khovanov. Nikita Shashkov also may have a good shot, has had a good year even though he didn't light it up internationally.
     
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    BTW most of these teams that we are proposing seem kinda young. Obviously most of us view the 2018 draft class in a MUCH higher regard then the 2017 class, but that's not really what history shows.
     
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    You can accuse Golubovich of many things, but being an enemy to himself is not one of those. :)

    Maksimov, Marushev... who is the third right-handed guy? But yeah, you addressed it right, we again are expecting to have issues here. Khovanov basically can be only a candidate for 2nd line C and for Golubovich to take him over Bitsadze... he has to be real good by that time. Not only Shashkov, I liked Kovalenko so far this season, Shafigullin is posting good numbers, but, again, I tried to make a "Golubovich's roster" here.
     
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    What position has that ‘99 Olshansky kid been playing this year? He’s listed as both d and f.
     
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    So how does next year's team look in comparison to this year's? Do you think they have more potential?
     
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    Well, at least there should be some center depth.
     
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    Might have a goalie or two.

    The good D-men will still be too young.

    Forwards are not without question makrs too.
     
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    the same or worse.
     
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    If you take this group and then replace Bragin with Golubovich as coach, the result will be the same as this year. By the same I mean 5th place. It shouldn't be worse than 5th. With Canada and Sweden in the preliminary group, it will likely mean finishing 3rd and playing against the 2nd place team in the other group in the QF. I think the only way it can get worse than being eliminated in the QF is if they go to the relegation game.
     
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    Upside of the group is there, most of the top talent will be 18 though.

    There might be new guys who breakout/improve among 19-year-olds, but right now it's a meh group.
     
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    What on earth is Prokhorov up to? Give him the reigns please. Im sick of Bragin's blunders. Dicked around with the goaltenders way too many times. The last time he cost the team the gold against the Finns should have been his last. Time to turn the page
     
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    Appoint Prokhorov as coach, and create U18 and U20 national teams to compete in the MHL and VHL. This would create teams that are on the same page and know what to do in the World Championships.
     
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    Roster for the 4 Nations tournament in Czech Republic (6th-8th of April):

    GK
    Daniil Tarasov
    Kirill Ustimenko

    D
    Veniamin Baranov
    Bogdan Denisevich
    Ilya Morozov
    Saveliy Olshanskiy
    Vadim Shepelev
    Gleb Shutov
    Akim Trishin
    Artyom Volkov

    FW
    Mikhail Bitsadze
    Artyom Galimov
    German Grachyov
    Yegor Filin
    Yevgeniy Kanitskiy
    Maxim Marushev
    Ivan Muranov
    Alexander Oskin
    Mikhail Shalagin
    Nikita Shashkov
    Pavel Shen
    Stepan Starkov
    Alexander Yaremchuk
     

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