OT: Russia in other sports

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  1. cska78 Registered User

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    I haven't thought about it much: I think Neustetter will start, there is also Semenov; Kutepov is hurt. Ionov I think likes to play on the left side. Whatever Cherchesov does, I have faith in him, how could you not after the WC
     
  2. MaxV Registered User

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    Jeez, that’s an ugly looking lineup. Just 2 attacking players.

    Why are we back with 3-CB system, our success was with 2-CB/2-DM system.
     
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    Solid victory. Cheryshev and Dzyuba are in good form.

    I’m still not a fan of Cherchesov’s system. I guess he was forced to deploy this lineup due to the absence of top players.
     
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    Win in Turkey is good in my book...I read Kudryashov was a liability in the second half (only watched the first half), it's a bit scary, with Zhirkov's retirements his only sub is Raush....
     
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    No, I disagree. Nabiullin, Skopintsev and a few others that might be down the line can take it. It’s only a matter of experience and time.

    My issue with Cherchesov and this current team is that it’s built to out-work their opponents. I mean, it’s not the worst thing, but if the ultimate goal is to be a top team you need more skill on the field. Golovin’s absence certainly doesn’t help, but I still find it hard to believe that this is the most skilled team that they could field.

    They basically had 3 CBs and 5 DMs. I like Kuzyaev, but if he is on the field it shouldn’t be in an attacking mid role. Also, Erokhin playing as a wing? Come on.
     
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    I shared my opinion on Skopintsev - too much of liability on the pitch.
    I forgot Nabiullin, but he would have been a lot better off staying under Berdyev, don't see much progress since he came to Zenit

    Agree on Erokhin, that is NOT his spot.
     
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    Decomposed Czechs today, they came to play a friendly, while Salamych had our guys play a world cup final :)
     
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    Not the worst game I’ve seen Russia play.

    And I like this formation FAR more.

    I honestly don’t see the point of Kudryashov starting if we are playing 2 DMs. Let’s not pretend that he is a LB, he is a 100% CB and an undersized one at that. Rausch looked very solid. He was in the middle of that Czech goal, but it was more of a miscommunication/bad timing rather a bad defensive play. Actually, he was about to make a great defensive play before Lunyov wiped him out.

    Ionov, whoa. Interesting. There might a bit of a competition brewing at that spot. His presence also allowed Erokhin and Kuzyaev to play at their natural positions.

    It’ll be interesting to see who will start in the next game.

    I mean, a bunch of midfielders made a strong case for themselves in these 2 games. Whom do you sit? Especially, when Golovin comes back, even a tougher decision.

    Good game by Zabolotny. He is not a starting caliber forward, but he has the ability to contribute as a sub.
     
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    Why are there only 2 posters talking about this subject?

    Did this team really do so much damage over the past few years that even a successful WC can’t fix it?
     
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    It can, but for me the issue is that I've been really dissapointed with football as such, so it's hard to get the interest back to the level that would allow me to gain the knowledge back to properly discuss it. :)
     
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    There are definitely some really talented young guys that are already getting playing time and already showing flashes. Several have already made their NT debut, others are on the verge. The fact that top teams are actually showing a commitment to getting young guys playing time is also very encouraging.

    Very interesting period in Russian soccer.

    Actually, this guy made 2 great videos on the subject:

    Top young Russian players.


    Top Russian prospects.



    There are definitely others that could have a case for these lists, including 2 guys who are playing overseas (Anton Mitryushkin and Viacheslav Karavayev).
     
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    before you jump on train of these young guys, let's see them play Serbia at u-21 today. Our u-21 is usually a huge disappointment.
     
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    Meh, those results have other variables besides talent. Our coaching is always poor at that level. It’s always disorganized.

    I’m not jumping the train. These guys still have a long road ahead of them. Russian clubs are notoriously bad at developing young players. They rather buy some mediocre foreign player and give him playing time rather then the young guy.

    They do loan them to FNL, but that league is a grind where it’s a slow-paced, close-quarters foul-fest. Skill doesn’t get developed there.

    Biggest success with young guys is usually RPL mid- or bottom-tier teams. They get playing time and a chance to play at higher level. Rostov is the best team by far when it comes to development, Rubin might be up there this year.
     
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    Chalov should be a decent player. Miranchuk bro's - not sure, I think they are of the same mold as Kokorin/Smolov, weak minded self-loving.
     
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    btw is Bandy popular in Russia?
     
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    It is in certain regions of Russia.
     
  17. cska78 Registered User

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    I like bandy, unfortunately it's hard to follow and rarely on tv. Also, there isn't a single club team I can associate myself with. I used to somewhat support SKA Yekaterinburg in associations with CSKA.
     
  18. MaxV Registered User

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    What happened in that Zenit-Loko game?

    Jeez.
     
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    It's more like 'other sports in Russia', but this weekend it's F1 Russian Grand Prix in Sochi. I'm not a big fan of F1 these days, but I enjoyed the Sochi event in previous years.
     
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    Akinfeev retires from NT.

    Good career I would say.
     
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    His career was good, but instead of trying to play for a team in a top European league, he chose comfort zone. He had atrocious mistakes on NT levels, yes this last world cup @ home was good for him, thank you and let's move on. Lunev, Selikhov, Djanaev, Gillierme and co. can duke it out for a no.1 position
     
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    It’s Lunyov by a mile right now.
     
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    Today yes, goaltenders in Zenit though tend to fall from grace real quick, the track record of Malafeev's, Ladygin's, Kerzhakov's of the world speaks for itself.
     
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    Kokorin and Mamaew at it again, lol, two idiots ))
     
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    Khabib won the most anticipated fight ever vs McGregor.

    Unfortunately, his moment was ruined by post fight brawl.
     

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