GDT: Running Out of Ideas: Devils @ Sabres, 7 PM, MSG+

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  1. Bleedred

    Bleedred #freetheshootertutor

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    Fine

    And this is when I lazily throw ''Kinkaid has an .898% save percentage on the season and Schneider has an .852% save percentage on the season'' and don't even analyze.
     
  2. Hidden Hair of Hynes

    Hidden Hair of Hynes Registered User

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    I have a feeling if this off-season doesn't run smoothly, my name and avatar may be outdated before January 2020 lmao

    games like this are UGLY
     
  3. Sir Fenwick Corsi

    Sir Fenwick Corsi X marks the spot

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    Those would be nice save percentages if we were still in the 80’s.

    Ugly.
     
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    we’re both finding out own narrative in advanced stats. fact is the sabres were a first place team. much like the marty teams in the mid 2000’s they had a bubble playoff team with legendary goaltending. this devils team is not a bubble playoff team with average goaltending. theyre on the outside looking in and by good margin. hasek would not turn a -0.25 SRS team like this one to a .25 team like his 96-97 team. potentially he would make it a 0.02 team or where we were last year. where we averaged out in PDO and would have been higher with better luck.

    too many players on this team are underperforming. it was the height of the dead puck era and buffalo playeda decent defensive team game. no where near comparable to hynes’ defensive disaster.
     
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    Are posters really having arguments on which player sat on Seney? I'm out.
     
  6. NJDevs26

    NJDevs26 We suck again!

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    Too bad nobody holds anyone's feet to the fire in the organization. That's one of the things I DO miss about the glory days...actual accountability. So the fans are left to hold anyone and everyone accountable but just wind up getting in stupid, needless fights during GDT's.
     
  7. Hidden Hair of Hynes

    Hidden Hair of Hynes Registered User

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    Not an argument, just one person telling me im embarassing and wrong and me correcting them

    Cant let the Devils be that bad AND be wrong in the same day
     
  8. sabremike

    sabremike Magic Giraffe Fan Club

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    Axe murderer Bogo > Broken Bogo
     
  9. Bleedred

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    Why would we do that? We already fired Terreri when Cory first showed signs of declining and it looked like it might have worked last season, before his hip gave out and now he's at the point where he's turning 33 soon and his career is either over altogether or over at being anything more than barely serviceable. And if this year was any indication, he's not even serviceable, but I realize that's a small sample size. However, 100 games is not a small sample size and that's how long he's been bad for. Not unserviceably bad, but bad.

    And as far as Kinkaid goes, the goalie coach should not pay for Kinkaid putting up terrible numbers when he has to play almost all of the team's games between the opener and Christmas and now even more due to the other goalie getting injured.

    Kinkaid this year is like what would have happened if we brought back Scott Clemmensen in 09-10 and he had to play 40 or more games again. He wouldn't have done what he did the first year, that's for sure.
     
  10. MartyOwns

    MartyOwns i’ll ask daneyko

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    that’s not lazy, it’s factual and objective (and true)
     
  11. Hidden Hair of Hynes

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    I mean, it could be worse...

    we could have all the young, supposedly high-end talent in the world and still be a bottom-end team ala Edmonton or Florida
     
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    And that's why I say. If we don't wanna argue about which goals were and weren't ''Stoppable'' ones or ones the goalie should have had, then I'll just throw the numbers around.

    And usually, when numbers are thrown around here without any context, be it corsi or even goaltending, people complain and say ''Well my eyes tell me something differently'' and my eyes tell me the goaltending has been as bad on my eyes as it's been on paper when I look at the stats.
     
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    clemms is a good comparable.
     
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    Needs to hear Hynes postgame
     
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    NJDevs26 We suck again!

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    So instead we're a bottom-end team without it. Other than one guy who might beg to be out of here this offseason.
     
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    NJDevs26 We suck again!

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    Why, the O/U on speech length is probably 2.5 minutes anyway?
     
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    I mean, this is really starting to play out like it would have if Clemmensen stayed in 09-10 and Marty got injured again and he had to play 40 or more games again. I don't think he would have done as well that second year.
     
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    MSG cut it off before they even showed his presser.

    Probably because it was on MSG and the Rangers game was coming on.
     
  19. Devils Dominion

    Devils Dominion Now we Plummet

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    NJDevs26 We suck again!

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    Possibly but Lemaire and the system might have dragged him to a good performance in all likelihood, for the 10-12 games Marty would have allowed him to play anyway.
     
  21. Hidden Hair of Hynes

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    Yeah but thats normal and a part of the cycle. Teams cant go 12+ seasons without missing the playoffs and then strive for mediocrity and miss on draft picks and not expect to be this bad.

    I do think the losses are beginning to insert a bad attitude this season but what else can be done?
     
  22. Cage Helmet

    Cage Helmet Thank you Marty!

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    If I had to guess he’s telling him to play deeper in net because his hip is shot and it allows for less movement and less athleticism.
     
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    eh more like if he was around for the 10-11 season. 09-10 parise was beasting and that was a decent team. 10-11 was a comparable to this years team if kinkaid is comparable to clemms
     
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    I'm talking in the hypothetical that Marty got injured again that year and Clemmensen had to play 40 or more games again.
     
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    He may have won more games than Kinkaid is winning with this team, but I think we're seeing a save percentage somewhere around the .900% range or lower.
     
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