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Volica

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Trading vets won't destroy the team.
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What veterans are actually an integral part of this team outside of Gio?

How much worse could this team be without the likes of Wideman, Hudler or Russell? None of them are lighting the world on fire. To not get rid of them would be incredibly stupid asset management.
 
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Volica said:
What veterans are actually an integral part of this team outside of Gio?

How much worse could this team be without the likes of Wideman, Hudler or Russell? None of them are lighting the world on fire. To not get rid of them would be incredibly stupid asset management.
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Plus, how many times have we seen teams trade players at, or near, the deadline, and then bring in young players that provide a spark to the team.

Plus we have to see what Agostino, Poirier and Grant can do at the NHL level. Might as well do it now while we have nothing to lose.
 

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Hey guys, Devils fan here with a question for you. What happened to Drew Shore? I saw on hockeydatabase he hasn't played this year. Im guessing he's hurt, if so, how bad is it?
 
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If the Flames are serious about tanking, they should not only keep Russell, but make him and Wideman the top pairing. And make the top line Raymond-Colborne-Hudler. While playing Hiller every game from now on.

Top lottery odds guaranteed.
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Hartley's ahead of you. Russell gets a bit more ES TOI/Game than Giordano.

Wideman's ES ice time has dropped fair mount since the start of the season, however, and his suspension isn't going to fix it.
 
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Just throwing something out there.

I will preface this by saying I do not feel this is a good idea, nor do I think it was deliberate.

Should Wideman be suspended for the 20 games (or more) and the management group feels it was intentional, do you think it is a possibility Wideman could be bought out at season's end?

A buyout would carry a cap hit of $1,250,000 next year and $2,000,000 the following year. Due to his contract being back loaded year 1 of the buyout is almost as low as buying out Smid.
 
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Oskar Lindblom for Rasmus Andersson? One poster on the main boards said you guys needed more wing depth
 
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A buyout would carry a cap hit of $1,250,000 next year and $2,000,000 the following year. Due to his contract being back loaded year 1 of the buyout is almost as low as buying out Smid.
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I´d rather have him knock out the hole ref squad than playing smid 70+ games :laugh:
 
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100 Third Graders said:
Just throwing something out there.

I will preface this by saying I do not feel this is a good idea, nor do I think it was deliberate.

Should Wideman be suspended for the 20 games (or more) and the management group feels it was intentional, do you think it is a possibility Wideman could be bought out at season's end?

A buyout would carry a cap hit of $1,250,000 next year and $2,000,000 the following year. Due to his contract being back loaded year 1 of the buyout is almost as low as buying out Smid.
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Wouldn't you rather take on salary and trade to get something in return. I would imagine there would be takers at just under 3 million a year.
 
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100 Third Graders said:
Just throwing something out there.

I will preface this by saying I do not feel this is a good idea, nor do I think it was deliberate.

Should Wideman be suspended for the 20 games (or more) and the management group feels it was intentional, do you think it is a possibility Wideman could be bought out at season's end?

A buyout would carry a cap hit of $1,250,000 next year and $2,000,000 the following year. Due to his contract being back loaded year 1 of the buyout is almost as low as buying out Smid.
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Also, no comment whether he meant to do it or not, so purely from the rules point of view.

If he was suspended for 20 games I'd think a termination of contract (like LA did with Richards) could be possible if the management thinks Wideman is not needed anymore. That would save cap more than regular buyout. Would CBA allow it? :help:
 
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FLAMES666 said:
Wouldn't you rather take on salary and trade to get something in return. I would imagine there would be takers at just under 3 million a year.
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the cap problem will just for the one year, trading him at a $3 million cap hit would still carry a 2.25 million cap hit. Plus the Flames have never retained salary, I don't think it is about to start now.
 
Lunatik

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Kahvi said:
Also, no comment whether he meant to do it or not, so purely from the rules point of view.

If he was suspended for 20 games I'd think a termination of contract (like LA did with Richards) could be possible if the management thinks Wideman is not needed anymore. That would save cap more than regular buyout. Would CBA allow it? :help:
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CBA won't allow it.
 
InfinityIggy

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100 Third Graders said:
Just throwing something out there.

I will preface this by saying I do not feel this is a good idea, nor do I think it was deliberate.

Should Wideman be suspended for the 20 games (or more) and the management group feels it was intentional, do you think it is a possibility Wideman could be bought out at season's end?

A buyout would carry a cap hit of $1,250,000 next year and $2,000,000 the following year. Due to his contract being back loaded year 1 of the buyout is almost as low as buying out Smid.
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I mean could they, yes. That doesn't seem like a very 'flamesy' thing to do to me though. If anything I think they will either a) stay quiet about it. Or b) defend him to some extent.
 
Lunatik

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has Lindbolm's stock risen that dramatically? He was a 5th round pick not that long ago
 
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