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[McDNicks17]

Larsson for Andreas Johnsson.
Pulju+Gagner+stuff for Chris Tierney and Dylan DeMelo.

Neal - McDavid - Kassian
RNH - Drai - Yamo
Johnsson - Tierney - Chiasson
Nygard - Sheahan - Archibald

Nurse - Bear
Klefbom - DeMelo
Russell/Jones - Benning


Massive upgrade to the third line while filling Larsson's hole with a quality rental. Alternatively, could drop DeMelo and add Ceci(and Gagner) to Leafs trade.

 

[Little Fury]

@Bryanbryoil

Do you plan on keeping Larsson in an ideal world while breaking in Bouchard? Personally I'd try and get value for Lars in trade and look for a cheaper option to fill Larsson's role. Benning has been more than fine on the 3rd pairing and is paid like a 3rd pairing defenseman but his concussion issues have been very scary and hopefully they are behind him.

Yeah, I try and trade Larsson for an F like Kapanen or Johnsson and bring in a vet stopgap.
Klef-Bear
Nurse-Bouchard
Jones-UFA

 

[KlefDown]

I'm all on board with moving Larsson but the return has to be better than Andreas Johnsson

at least Kapanen imo

 

[redgrant]

Dont watch many leaf games. Is kerfoot 3rd line centre material or just overhyped by the leaf propaganda machine?

 

[Soli]

Pulju+Gagner+stuff for Chris Tierney and Dylan DeMelo.

Is there a comfort level with trading the Pulju asset for a UFA 3rd line center? If we want to subscribe to the belief that a good Pulju evaluation is a low 1st but preferably higher than a singular 2nd, we're probably in the ballpark. Still, I don't like trading assets we have term control over (hah!) for probable rentals.

In this example Tierney, but I've been thinking lately about Haula, and the Pulju/Carolina connection is seemingly present. Pageau also falls into this category.

 

[McDNicks17]

Is there a comfort level with trading the Pulju asset for a UFA 3rd line center? If we want to subscribe to the belief that a good Pulju evaluation is a low 1st but preferably higher than a singular 2nd, we're probably in the ballpark. Still, I don't like trading assets we have term control over (hah!) for probable rentals.

In this example Tierney, but I've been thinking lately about Haula, and the Pulju/Carolina connection is seemingly present. Pageau also falls into this category.

Tierney is an RFA, so hopefully you can get at least a couple more years out of him.

I've been scouring the #3C market and it's rough. If they can't add a guy like Tierney/Haula, hopefully they could add someone like Nick Cousins when the Habs throw in the towel or even Evan Rodrigues. I think E-Rod might actually be a pretty smart pickup for something like Khaira if they completely strike out.

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

I'm all on board with moving Larsson but the return has to be better than Andreas Johnsson

at least Kapanen imo

Granted I avoid watching that team like the plague, most Leafs fans that I speak with prefer Johnsson

 

[Soli]

Tierney is an RFA, so hopefully you can get at least a few more years out of him.

I've been scouring the #3C market and it's rough. If they can't add a guy like Tierney/Haula, hopefully they could add someone like Nick Cousins when the Habs throw in the towel or even Evan Rodrigues. I think E-Rod might actually be a pretty smart pickup for something like Khaira if they completely strike out.

Whoops. Well that quells that fear, I can get behind some Tierney.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Haula is apparently on the outs in Carolina, might make a perfect target for this team.

 

[Soli]

Haula is apparently on the outs in Carolina, might make a perfect target for this team.

Reading through some of HFCanes, it reads as though Haula was getting settled in Vegas with his fiance, planning a wedding, then the trade did some upheaval, hasn't really felt at home in Carolina, has been out with injury part of this season, hasn't been able to get comfortable.

The issue with Haula is he's gonna price himself out of 3rd line center money and we're not in a position to be spending on center depth unless Haula is amicable to signing an extention and they have some grand Nuge plans.

The Canes under Dundon have been a franchise that moves players that don't want to sign contracts there in short order. Problem is they've been winning their trades IMO, and fairly handily. An asset that keeps Aho happy past 5 years is gold for that franchise though...

 

[belair]

@Bryanbryoil

Yeah, I try and trade Larsson for an F like Kapanen or Johnsson and bring in a vet stopgap.
Klef-Bear
Nurse-Bouchard
Jones-UFA

Andreas Johnsson has 11 even strength points this year and just two goals despite an increased workload. He sees a lot of time flanking some of their best centers as well. Trading Larsson in a deal for him would be a massive step backwards.

Finding a better player in free agency won't be overly difficult this summer.

If Johnsson's the target, the best I'm offering is a package of Benning and Khaira. Even then, you're taking a lot of term back.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Reading through some of HFCanes, it reads as though Haula was getting settled in Vegas with his fiance, planning a wedding, then the trade did some upheaval, hasn't really felt at home in Carolina, has been out with injury part of this season, hasn't been able to get comfortable.

The issue with Haula is he's gonna price himself out of 3rd line center money and we're not in a position to be spending on center depth unless Haula is amicable to signing an extention and they have some grand Nuge plans.

The Canes under Dundon have been a franchise that moves players that don't want to sign contracts there. Problem is they've been winning their trades IMO, and fairly handily. An asset that keeps Aho happy past 5 years is gold for that franchise though...

Again, I'm only thinking about this season, signing him long term might be good if he is comfortable and fits, but I mean as an add for this season he makes a good fit as a #3C

 

[Little Fury]

Andreas Johnsson has 11 even strength points this year and just two goals despite an increased workload. He sees a lot of time flanking some of their best centers as well. Trading Larsson in a deal for him would be a massive step backwards.

Finding a better player in free agency won't be overly difficult this summer.

If Johnsson's the target, the best I'm offering is a package of Benning and Khaira. Even then, you're taking a lot of term back.

Fair enough, I haven't looked at him closely, but his name keeps coming up. Kapanen is the main I guy I go after, I wanted him last year. Larsson+Pulju for Kapanen+?

 

[ujju2]

Fair enough, I haven't looked at him closely, but his name keeps coming up. Kapanen is the main I guy I go after, I wanted him last year. Larsson+Pulju for Kapanen+?

Much rather just hang on to Larsson than anything. I think Benning+Khaira for Johnsson would be a good deal for us, although the Leafs might decline (or might not, who knows).

 

[belair]

Fair enough, I haven't looked at him closely, but his name keeps coming up. Kapanen is the main I guy I go after, I wanted him last year. Larsson+Pulju for Kapanen+?

My question is what for? That's a lot you're offering up for a player you're putting on the third line. If you put him in the top six, someone's coming off of it.

Kapanen doesn't really fit our short term needs of a top six LW.

 

[McDNicks17]

Johnsson seems like a better fit to me.

Smarts over speed. (That's not to say he's a bad skater though.)

 

[CageRage]

@Bryanbryoil



Yeah, I try and trade Larsson for an F like Kapanen or Johnsson and bring in a vet stopgap.
Klef-Bear
Nurse-Bouchard
Jones-UFA

I haven't watched a whole lot of Jones but I do not see an NHL ready player there. I see more of a stopgap, injury fill-in tweener at the moment. Although, it is quite possible I have just caught his bad games. Is the general consensus that he is ready for the third pair?

 

[Anarchism]

So Benson plays tonight and saturday....does he get called up on Sunday??

 

[Little Fury]

My question is what for? That's a lot you're offering up for a player you're putting on the third line. If you put him in the top six, someone's coming off of it.

Kapanen doesn't really fit our short term needs of a top six LW.

I'd rather see Kapanen on the top line than Kassian.

 

[Little Fury]

I haven't watched a whole lot of Jones but I do not see an NHL ready player there. I see more of a stopgap, injury fill-in tweener at the moment. Although, it is quite possible I have just caught his bad games. Is the general consensus that he is ready for the third pair?

I think Jones is serviceable bottom pairing guy if he has a better partner than Kris Russell.

 

[Oil Dood]

I'd rather see Kapanen on the top line than Kassian.

Depends who we are playing. If the other team has a Predator(Tkachuk type of player) I want Kassian on the top line all game. If Kapanen can replace Neal on the top line I would be all for it.

 

[SupremeTeam16]

So Benson plays tonight and saturday....does he get called up on Sunday??

They won’t call him up before the AHL all star games.

My guess is he gets the call early to mid feb.

 

[Anarchism]

I'd rather see Kapanen on the top line than Kassian.

Ok ...Kasperi ....upside we all know ....not great defensively...but skill...

So what do you pay for him.....
And who do you run as LW...Neal no longer really an option in this scenario.....he wasnt ideal anyways....

Whoever this is probably needs to be somewhat skilled and very good defensively....a puck hound...

Maybe in 4 to 6 months playing time Benson could work here well....but thats a mystery yet to unfold.

 

[belair]

I'd rather see Kapanen on the top line than Kassian.

Than what value does Kassian bring to the table? He becomes a 15 point player in the bottom six.

Not really very good reasoning to spend those assets.