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[Canovin]

We may have missed Wyatt by 1 pick. But atleast we’re not the Leaf’s picking goalie Ian Scott one spot before Swayman. And reports are the Leaf’s really liked Swayman.

No one was picking Wyatt at 23rd aside from Dallas

 

[GOilers88]

Trade him and attach the picks needed for the Sharks to take on his full cap hit. Cap space is far more valuable than draft picks with 2 / 29 / 97 coming up in the next few years. Can’t afford a dime of dead cap.

This seems like the most logical solution. Retain and dump. I'd prefer that over another 6 years of buyout penalty.

 

[McShogun99]

No one was picking Wyatt at 23rd aside from Dallas

I have zero problem with the team not picking Wyatt but I will forever be burned by passing on Walstedt and then trading down to draft 2 players that might not even become NHL regulars.

 

[TheNumber4]

No one was picking Wyatt at 23rd aside from Dallas

Coffey would have. And the Stars did. So k?

 

[foshizzle]

The buyout matters next year, how can you swallow 3.25M on Brown (4+ if he re signs) and 5M on Campbell while re-signing players and filling holes during a peak contention season? Unless a trade is engineered to dump cap the buyout is inevitable and necessary. Realistically we have almost 10M in “dead” cap next year, the buyout can cut that back and get a couple real NhL players into the mix.

Because you have McDavid, Draisaitl, Bouchard under market value. Holland has created a mess for sure. You can buy him out the year after or try moving him. Having perpetual dead cap isn’t a great to manage a team.

No one was picking Wyatt at 23rd aside from Dallas

If Wright listened to Coffey and Staios, Oilers would have picked Wyatt

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Green who admitted at the draft, right after the trade, that he never watched Griffin play pro hockey. Hadn’t watched him since junior.

He didn’t make the trade, but I bet he gave a thumbs up.

I’m with you, fire these guys yesterday. You need accountability! Scouts need to do their due diligence before offering up their opinion, that draft was far too important to f*** around and waste those picks.

Edit: was trying to reply to Pavel, idk why it didn’t quote

This was always Chiarelli's deal to make.

New GM coming in with full authority to lurch the moribund franchise forward. He talked about extensive direct viewing of Reinhart at the Memorial Cup and some pro level viewings in the AHL. The Oiler organization support management guys had years of direct intel on Reinhart, favourable for sure and contributory confirmation bias, but this was new big boss man asserting his new authority to mold this team in his image.

Hiring Chiarelli turned out to be a car crash when considering it cost a quality draft asset thanks to an inane, half baked NHL compensation rule for hiring away executive talent (bizarrely applied to a fired guy); that the Bruins were so pissed off at Chiarelli that Oilers couldn't get in on a better, proven Doug Hamilton with better draft collateral than Calgary had; and then to have this guy hollow out the team's NHL roster when they finally revoked his executive washroom keys.

Chiarelli's first trade was an epic disaster.

 

[McShogun99]

This was always Chiarelli's deal to make.

New GM coming in with full authority to lurch the moribund franchise forward. He talked about extensive direct viewing of Reinhart at the Memorial Cup and some pro level viewings in the AHL. The Oiler organization support management guys had years of direct intel on Reinhart, favourable for sure and contributory confirmation bias, but this was new big boss man asserting his new authority to mold this team in his image.

Hiring Chiarelli turned out to be a car crash when considering it cost a quality draft asset thanks to an inane, half baked NHL compensation rule for hiring away executive talent (bizarrely applied to a fired guy); that the Bruins were so pissed off at Chiarelli that Oilers couldn't get in on a better, proven Doug Hamilton with better draft collateral than Calgary had; and then to have this guy hollow out the team's NHL roster when they finally revoked his executive washroom keys.

Chiarelli's first trade was an epic disaster.

But what about that Mcdavid pick????

That was his first move as Oilers GM and he hit it out of the park and set the franchise up for years. I'm surprised they didn't put a statue of him in front of Rogers Place.

 

[belair]

I never understood the urgency in that draft to rapidly improve the team at all costs. Their attempt to get Dougie Hamilton made sense. He was already a young 2nd pair dman who was likely to become a top pair at worst. But the assets moved for Reinhart made no sense even at the time.

It was the ownership push. Katz was tired of the team losing because they were going on a decade plus of no playoff hockey.

At that point the team was convinced the McDavid lottery win would push the Taylor Hall rebuild into the stratosphere. In reality that rebuild was a colossal failure that always assumed they'd recreated the 80s era Oilers that outscored their horrendous defense.

All of the people working in management during that rebuild no longer work.

 

[Mr McV]

But what about that Mcdavid pick????

That was his first move as Oilers GM and he hit it out of the park and set the franchise up for years. I'm surprised they didn't put a statue of him in front of Rogers Place.

Yeah, we're lucky there. With Holland picking McDavid we dodged a bullet.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Yup we're healthy scratching close to $9 million in cap space next year.

Campbell's buyout penalty is only like, 1.5 next year. He won't be back, and is untradeable.

 

[gordonhught]

Campbell's buyout penalty is only like, 1.5 next year. He won't be back, and is untradeable.

E. Kane. His buyout creates about 5 million in aggregate savings for the next two seasons (2024/2025 and 2025/2026) with a 1.125 mil cap hit in the two years beyond that (2026/2027 and 2027/2028).

Kane is slowing down and cant defend well anymore.

 

[TheNumber4]

Hear me out. 5 first round picks for Hellybucyk. We will never win without the best goalie in the League and the best two forwards in the League. It’s simple team building guys. Helly is going to take us all the way, check his stats on hockeydb. Team defence is irrelevent, it all comes down to the goalie. That’s the recipe for a Cup.

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

E. Kane. His buyout creates about 5 million in aggregate savings for the next two seasons (2024/2025 and 2025/2026) with a 1.125 mil cap hit in the two years beyond that (2026/2027 and 2027/2028).

Kane is slowing down and cant defend well anymore.

You could probably just trade him if you really wanted to. Doubt you’d need to retain or anything either.

 

[Oilhawks]

E. Kane. His buyout creates about 5 million in aggregate savings for the next two seasons (2024/2025 and 2025/2026) with a 1.125 mil cap hit in the two years beyond that (2026/2027 and 2027/2028).

Kane is slowing down and cant defend well anymore.

Buying out Kane (who has been valuable once again in the playoffs) while Campbell is still getting Oilers paycheques would be truly LOL-worthy