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soothsayer said:
And I'm saying it's silly to call them contenders when they haven't won a first round. It's like anointing a goalie a legitimate starter after only one good season. I'm saying, talk to me after the playoffs about their contender status. Let's see if they've got "the stuff."
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Did you consider the Capitals a contender all these years? The Sharks? There was a lot of 1st round exits mixed in there, the Caps didn't even make it to the CF until last year.
The Leafs are a contender, they've added two high level players to a team that was already a 100+ point team that just about made it to the 2nd round. A contender doesn't have to be limited to 2-3 teams.

The Flames are contenders and they haven't won a playoff series. Not winning a playoff series in a past year doesn't automatically make the current team a non-contender.
 
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soothsayer said:
And I'm saying it's silly to call them contenders when they haven't won a first round. It's like anointing a goalie a legitimate starter after only one good season. I'm saying, talk to me after the playoffs about their contender status. Let's see if they've got "the stuff."
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I dunno about you but I consider any team that's top 10 in the league to be a contender.
 

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They don’t have the parts man. Spotty goalie and the depth of a puddle on defence. Great season team and bad playoff team.
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People overrate depth around here, it's ridiculous. They have the top end talent, that's the hardest part. Rounding out the D is an issue, but they could trade a guy like Nylander for a D and not miss a beat.
 

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Did you consider the Capitals a contender all these years? The Sharks? There was a lot of 1st round exits mixed in there, the Caps didn't even make it to the CF until last year.
The Leafs are a contender, they've added two high level players to a team that was already a 100+ point team that just about made it to the 2nd round. A contender doesn't have to be limited to 2-3 teams.

The Flames are contenders and they haven't won a playoff series. Not winning a playoff series in a past year doesn't automatically make the current team a non-contender.
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The Capitals and Sharks both won playoff series with their core groups. So they aren't comparable. The Flames, again, let's see how they do these playoffs.
 

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Well a top 10 team would be an automatic playoff team so yeah, I'm talking Cup.
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That's what I was afraid of. I've got 5 cup contenders in my list right now, all of whom have established themselves as capable of winning in the playoffs. I guess my standards for "cup contender" are a little more exacting than yours.
 
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soothsayer said:
I guess my standards for "cup contender" are a little more exacting than yours.
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That's what I was afraid of. I've got 5 cup contenders in my list right now, all of whom have established themselves as capable of winning in the playoffs. I guess my standards for "cup contender" are a little more exacting than yours.
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You tell me your list of 5 contenders and I'll tell you mine and let's see.

Personally, i don't think "established ability to win in the playoffs" tells you anything about future success.
 
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