Maybe. Although I feel like having a right shot on that line would benefit Drai greatly. So I could maybe see Drai and Duclair and then a bigger bodied right shot but we would need one of those too.
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Mr Positive
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If we are going to move on from Maroon eventually, we will be looking for LWers. Maybe we could use the rest of the season to try out Duclair, and maybe trade out Maroon by the deadline as well. But of course Arizona won't take Maroon. It would be separate deals.
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Draisaitl, Klefbom and Puljujarvi for Subban at 9M is a bad deal. People think the team is lacking depth now, how bad would it look with those three out of the picture?
Maybe Cagguila, 2nd for Duclair, 3rd
See what Ty Rattie (AHL All Star this Year) can do?
Duclair - McDavid - Puljujarvi
Lucic - Draisaitl - Rattie
Slepyshev - RNH - Strome
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I'm fairly certain people wanted him gone. Keep in mind the team was coming off a 38-35 season, which at the time was pretty bad considering how consistent the Oilers had been (save one really bad season immediately post-Pronger).
I'd be pretty happy with 38-35 this year lol.
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Honestly, I would offer Strome and Slepyshev (and maybe a pick) for Duclair and Reider, I think that would make a nice fit.
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True, but the franchise is stuck in the same cycle over and over again because they are not thinking outside the box. Sometime's you need to take a little bit of risk. If it doesn't work out , you lose a couple of prospects and middling players. If it hits you take of as a team. Problem with this organization is that they hand out talent on a whim, but don't acquire talent on a whim. Duclair is sitting right there for the taking. No significant players might need to be moved and he could be had.
Earlier this year Athanasiou was another player that we could have gunned for, cheap contract , young, fast talented, big. We took no interest. Clearly this roster is not working out too well. the mix this year is wrong. Moving forward you need to try different combinations because these guys are not going to get much better as is.
Imagine if the Oilers failed to make the playoffs next year. This current group is not going to get it done. Strome, Benning, Caggiula, Letestu, etc simply need to be purged moving forward. It took career years from Draisaitl, Klefbom, McDavid taking off, Talbot , Letestu, Larsson, Maroon just to make it last year. That will not happen again.
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I agree there. I am okay with going for him but giving up anything with actual value would be a mistake.
Like I said in another post I think it might be worth giving Rattie a chance with the club. Having a good AHL year on a bad team and he shoots right.
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I'm not just piling on a slumping Klef to say this, but imo if we could have foreseen Nurse rising up, that deal isn't so bad. Although, I might say no just because Drai is so critical. As for JP, that would be a tough loss too, but I feel we could find those wingers elsewhere.
And just the thought of Subban for our D would be so incredible. Transformative, not just for the defense too, but to unlock more offensive potential from our forwards. They need better support from the back end, and Subban is a nuclear option.
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Scrounging and hoping for a guy like Duclair to be found treasure is reminding me of the days the Oilers were scooping up Krys Kolanos and Ryan Potulny .
We should be better than this right now.
We should be better than this right now.
Yes but then our entire forward core is decimated. No Draisaitl, Puljujarvi. Hall would of probably still been traded for Larsson. So we have a good D core but literally nothing up front.
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look at the standings though. Maybe it's a bit early to try this, but one of the benefits of having a bad season is that you can make those meaningless games meaningful. Turn it into an interview period for next season. The real selling point to me is that we wouldn't have to pay a ton to get him, and more importantly, for next season we don't just want some depth wingers, but we'd want depth wingers at a low cap hit.
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Duclair is a much better/Dynamic player then those guys. Cmon bro lol . But true we should be much better then this.
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The Hall trade probably does not happen if we had Subban. Not only would the desire for a RHD be a lot less, but the desire to preserve our forward depth would have been greater.
There is also the rumors that they just wanted to move on from Hall period.
Lucic - McDavid - Puljujarvi
Maroon - RNH - Eberle
Nurse - Subban
Sekera - Larsson
Might not actually be awful?
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Why not just Slepyshev for Duclair and call it a day? I don’t see a future for Slepyshev here.
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Potulny actually looked really good visually in his short time with the Oilers. Mediocre players can look decent given enough ice time on bad teams. Which is what I think happened with Duclair in his first year with Arizona.
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I haven't been in this thread for a while... but if you can get Duclair for a 3rd... that's a steal. He's a legitimately good prospect who has good top 6 upside... and a 3rd round pick (used to choose a likely mid tier 18 year old player) is no certainty to ever even sniff an NHL game whereas Duclair already has close to 200 NHL games of development under his belt.
In fact... that's pretty much exactly the time to acquire a player like that... at 22 and closing in on 3 seasons worth of games... you are getting them at the time they are likely to really start to show what they have at the NHL level... and if they don't in a year or two you move on as they are likely a bust but you'll find that out pretty quickly all for the low cost of a 3rd rounder (potentially).
In fact... that's pretty much exactly the time to acquire a player like that... at 22 and closing in on 3 seasons worth of games... you are getting them at the time they are likely to really start to show what they have at the NHL level... and if they don't in a year or two you move on as they are likely a bust but you'll find that out pretty quickly all for the low cost of a 3rd rounder (potentially).
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Rumor was Drai, Klef/Nurse, 2017 1st (Puljujarvi) "and another prospect".
There's no chance in hell Chiarelli makes that trade for anyone in the NHL. That would have made us worse.
Bergevin was just shooting for the moon on that one. He had no intention of trading him the the Oilers, he had his mind set on Weber. That ask was so ridiculous you can't take it seriously, Subban was never coming to Edmonton. Period.
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my guess is that they did not want Hall gone, but that they picked him as their preferred trade asset. They probably would have been okay with keeping him if the big trade they wanted didn't involve Hall. Sometimes you take what the universe gives you, and change your plans.
Also, the rumored trade would mean we don't have JP.
And btw, for all we know, Chia wanted that trade. The speculation was that this deal was contingent on Columbus taking JP, and so the Habs could take Dubois. Those x-factors like the Habs-francophone connection are big catalysts to deals. I actually believe it completely
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