Proposal: Rumours and Proposals Thread: What the **** is next?

[The Nuge]

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[ohheyhemsky]

Is there a list of horrible 6/7 D-men that we can look at?

Edit: Nevermind, that list is just called the Oilers' D roster.

 

[Da McBomb]

Lol

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Lol who could’ve f***ing seen that one coming?

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Probably Benning for Zykov

 

[CycloneSweep]

Lol who could’ve ****ing seen that one coming?

Turned Eberle into a guy they are begging to give away.... While Strome and Eberle contue to be uaeful

 

[Hopelesslucicfan]

I for one welcome our new number 7 Dmen overlords.

 

[McDrai]

Lol

 

[ThreeOfAPerfectPair]

Spooner and Manning probably bought out this summer.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Turned Eberle into a guy they are begging to give away.... While Strome and Eberle contue to be uaeful

Supreme asset management.

 

[780il]

How long until we see Nurse for Connor f***ing Brown?

Just do it already Chia.... Put us out of our misery you f***ing dickhead

 

[CycloneSweep]

Yeah I'm done for a while. Peace folks.

 

[MinimaMoralia]

Lol

HOW DOES HE HAVE A JOB?

 

[Hopelesslucicfan]

Yeah I'm done for a while. Peace folks.

I liked this, but it's not cause I like you leaving, it's just an agreement like i swear.

 

[MinimaMoralia]

I’m out.

 

[The Nuge]

How the f*** do you take on Manning and not be able to convince the Bowman to take back ANY bad contract let alone Spooner

 

[Cloned]

Rumor: - Rumors and Proposals Thread: Come on Chia, Throw Hitch a Bone!

@guymez

I honestly can't agree that people are overvaluing Caggiula. In the thread I've seen him labelled as a Top 9 winger with potential, or a energetic if inconsistent utility forward that can provide some offense on a team that sorely needs offense.

Maybe there is a case for undervaluing Manning, but I'm having a hard time seeing that too. The guy is an overpaid 8D who Bowman couldn't wait to get rid of. He doesn't bring mobility or offense to the blue line. He's basically an extremely poor man's Adam Larsson who will struggle to get into the lineup when Russell is healthy (which could be as soon as the next game).

As for trusting Hitch's judgement, I generally don't believe in using appeal to authority as a debate tactic. It can provide evidence, but simply saying that "Hitch knows better" isn't an automatic debate ender.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

How the **** do you take on Manning and not be able to convince the Bowman to take back ANY bad contract let alone Spooner

Because when you set a low precedent other GMs will take advantage of you.

 

[guymez]

Rumor: - Rumors and Proposals Thread: Come on Chia, Throw Hitch a Bone!

@guymez

I honestly can't agree that people are overvaluing Caggiula. In the thread I've seen him labelled as a Top 9 winger with potential, or a energetic if inconsistent utility forward that can provide some offense on a team that sorely needs offense.

Maybe there is a case for undervaluing Manning, but I'm having a hard time seeing that too. The guy is an overpaid 8D who Bowman couldn't wait to get rid of. He doesn't bring mobility or offense to the blue line. He's basically an extremely poor man's Adam Larsson who will struggle to get into the lineup when Russell is healthy (which could be as soon as the next game).

As for trusting Hitch's judgement, I generally don't believe in using appeal to authority as a debate tactic. It can provide evidence, but simply saying that "Hitch knows better" isn't an automatic debate ender.

The problem with your logic is that it isnt an appeal to authority...its a recognition of Hitchs role with the team.

If it was an appeal to authority then I would be suggesting that your opinion is completely invalid because you are not qualified. That is a stupid position to take IMO and I have NEVER taken that position in the almost 15 years I have been on this board. You know better than that..
So no...I am not doing that...I am simply suggesting that your opinion is skewed by emotion.

 

[MinimaMoralia]

Because when you set a low precedent other GMs will take advantage of you.

A good GM would have stood pat. Held the fort. Kept the better assets, looked for a low key snipe or two, and hoped for at least a mediocre finish, built from there.

But then there’s Chia.

 

[Del Preston]

Lol

Chiarelli is even disagreeing with himself now. He's tried to undo at least three transactions already this year.

- signs Jerabek, trades him a month later
- acquires Wideman, trades him a month later
- acquires Spooner, tries to trade him a month later

what the f***

 

[Cloned]

The problem with your logic is that it isnt an appeal to authority...its a recognition of Hitchs role with the team.

If it was an appeal to authority then I would be suggesting that your opinion is completely invalid because you are not qualified. That is a stupid position to take IMO and I have NEVER taken that position in the almost 15 years I have been on this board. You know better than that..
So no...I am not doing that...I am simply suggesting that your opinion is skewed by emotion.

I'm still not seeing where you think posters (as a whole) are massively overvaluing Caggiula.

You're also using Hitch's opinion as evidence for your conclusion; that's textbook appeal to authority. Although I will concede that appeal to authority is not necessarily a invalid debate tactic. Just that I don't think one man's opinion, no matter how highly respected he is in his field, should hold that much more weight than what basically amounts to almost the entire consensus of this board. Add to that we are not even sure if Hitch was consulted with regards to Manning, or how much knowledge he has of the player if he was consulted.

You're speculating just as much as I am.

 

[Da McBomb]

Chiarelli is even disagreeing with himself now. He's tried to undo at least three transactions already this year.

- signs Jerabek, trades him a month later
- acquires Wideman, trades him a month later
- acquires Spooner, tries to trade him a month later

what the ****

Can probably add Aberg and zykov to list too

 

[guymez]

I'm still not seeing where you think posters (as a whole) are massively overvaluing Caggiula.

You're also using Hitch's opinion as evidence for your conclusion; that's textbook appeal to authority. Although I will concede that appeal to authority is not necessarily a invalid debate tactic. Just that I don't think one man's opinion, no matter how highly respected he is in his field, should hold that much more weight than what basically amounts to almost the entire consensus of this board. Add to that we are not even sure if Hitch was consulted with regards to Manning, or how much knowledge he has of the player if he was consulted.

You're speculating just as much as I am.

No...you are wrong. You are using something out of context. This is not an appeal to authority. Sorry man. If it was then i would be invalidating your opinion...I am not doing that and I will check to see if something i worded may have come off like that. If so it wasnt intentional.

I dont think your opinion is invalid...I just think that sometimes we can let out anger displace some objectivity and rational thinking and that is what i see happening on here today.

As for the rest of your post...just look at the verbage and obvious angst behind most of the posts here. There are a few posters like @TheNumber4 who are trying to look at these deals more objectively but those posts are few and far between.

 

[Hopelesslucicfan]

This may be the best tweet I've ever seen.

 

[Panda Bear]

what