Rumor: Rumours and Proposals Thread: More Calm Before The Storm

[McDNicks17]

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[McDNicks17]

I agree.
I am actually quite high on Jones. I think he has a legit chance to be a top 4 dman....more importantly he is a player that was developed internally. He has a lot of value to the Oilers.
Thats the way to successfully navigate the Cap era IMO. Develop your own young players and utilize their cheap entry level deals (and even bridge deals) for as long as possible.
So if the Oilers do deal him then the return had better be much more than an unproven player like Roslovic.

That's basically what they'd doing with a Jones for Roslovic swap though.

Roslovic may be unproven, but he's the same age as Jones. Combine that with him going in the 1st round of the same draft and being over a point-per-game in the AHL along with decent NHL production and it's pretty safe to say he's more proven than Jones.

If you trade Jones for a more proven player, you'll miss out on all that value from a cheap ELC and bridge.

 

[Joey Moss]

If Roslovic was on the table that's a guy we need to be in on. The Jets blueline is somewhat thin in the pipeline outside of Niku.. one of our defenseman for him could make some sense.

 

[LTIR]

Roslovic is more 'proven' NHLer than Jones.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Roslovic is more 'proven' NHLer than Jones.

I don’t think that was his point.

edit : I should add that I would be on board with this trade. Though I get what Guymez is saying.

 

[780il]

Yeah the more I think about it Id defo pull the trigger on Jones for Roslovic.

 

[guymez]

That's basically what they'd doing with a Jones for Roslovic swap though.

Roslovic may be unproven, but he's the same age as Jones. Combine that with him going in the 1st round of the same draft and being over a point-per-game in the AHL along with decent NHL production and it's pretty safe to say he's more proven than Jones.

If you trade Jones for a more proven player, you'll miss out on all that value from a cheap ELC and bridge.

Actually though Roslovic isnt over a point per game in the AHL. He is at 0.86 ppg in the AHL. Still pretty good for sure but not over a point per game.

The thing is Jones is a dman and the Oilers know what they have in Jones. He is a known quantity. He has been developed in their system. They also know the back story on him.
I dont think its smart to trade a player that the team has invested so much into and has a lot of cheap years left.
A player in which they have a strong sense of what his trajectory is.
They would be trading him for an unknown quantity that the Jets deem expendable.
If they trade for a player like Roslovic then I would package up a deal around Puljujarvi who may be an intriguing player for them considering his connection to Laine.

 

[North]

Actually though Roslovic isnt over a point per game in the AHL. He is at 0.86 ppg in the AHL. Still pretty good for sure but not over a point per game.

The thing is Jones is a dman and the Oilers know what they have in Jones. He is a known quantity. He has been developed in their system. They also know the back story on him.
I dont think its smart to trade a player that the team has invested so much into. A player in which they have a strong sense of what his trajectory is.
They would be trading him for an unknown quantity that the Jets deem expendable.
If they trade for a player like Roslovic then I would package up a deal around Puljujarvi who may be an intriguing player for them considering his connection to Laine.

I think if the Jets weren’t so thin on d, they might consider Pulju but if you want to entice them to deal Roslovic they’d want someone like Jones.

I don’t think Bear or Lagesson would be compelling enough for them.

At the end of the day though, I think the Jets are really high on Roslovic and probably wouldn’t deal him.

 

[CookiesAndMilk]

Actually though Roslovic isnt over a point per game in the AHL. He is at 0.86 ppg in the AHL. Still pretty good for sure but not over a point per game.

The thing is Jones is a dman and the Oilers know what they have in Jones. He is a known quantity. He has been developed in their system. They also know the back story on him.
I dont think its smart to trade a player that the team has invested so much into and has a lot of cheap years left.
A player in which they have a strong sense of what his trajectory is.
They would be trading him for an unknown quantity that the Jets deem expendable.
If they trade for a player like Roslovic then I would package up a deal around Puljujarvi who may be an intriguing player for them considering his connection to Laine.

Totally with you on this one. If Jones is dealt, it has to be more than just Roslovic.

 

[LTIR]

Seems like Jones > Puljujarvi around here.

Holland needs to Identify 4 or 5 LDs to keep and trade bait the rest. I don't think Jones is a top 8 Dman in the organization right now and we need to add another top 4 Dman.

 

[CookiesAndMilk]

Seems like Jones > Puljujarvi around here.

Holland needs to Identify 4 or 5 LDs to keep and trade bait the rest. I don't think Jones is a top 8 Dman in the organization right now and we need to add another top 4 Dman.

Adding another vet D would help for sure. But I'm strongly against trading young D. We now have somewhat acceptable coming up and there are already voices, that want to trade our future. I don't like it.

 

[guymez]

I think if the Jets weren’t so thin on d, they might consider Pulju but if you want to entice them to deal Roslovic they’d want someone like Jones.

I don’t think Bear or Lagesson would be compelling enough for them.

At the end of the day though, I think the Jets are really high on Roslovic and probably wouldn’t deal him.

Its interesting to hear that the Jets are shopping Trouba. If I were the GM of the Jets I would be looking to trade some higher priced forwards...not Dmen.

In any event I think some posters are undervaluing Jones. I really like the player...he has a great tool set IMO.
I would be reluctant to trade him. I have him pretty much at the top of the list of NHL ready dmen in Bakersfield right now.

 

[guymez]

Seems like Jones > Puljujarvi around here.

Holland needs to Identify 4 or 5 LDs to keep and trade bait the rest. I don't think Jones is a top 8 Dman in the organization right now and we need to add another top 4 Dman.

Do you think Jesse has more value than Jones?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Nothing against Roslovic, but does he bring more to the table than Marody? Plus Yamamoto and Puljujarvi, who are also RHS, but wingers.

The Oil are actually in a good spot when it comes to young talent looking to break into the league. Established talent to insulate those guys is the issue for the Oil. Roslovic wouldn't solve that.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

Nothing against Roslovic, but does he bring more to the table than Marody? Plus Yamamoto and Puljujarvi, who are also RHS, but wingers.

The Oil are actually in a good spot when it comes to young talent looking to break into the league. Established talent to insulate those guys is the issue for the Oil. Roslovic wouldn't solve that.

I think Roslovic upside is more of the Derek Stepan, Kevin Hayes type while Marody upside will be more a 3rd liner that puts up 25 or so points.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Nothing against Roslovic, but does he bring more to the table than Marody? Plus Yamamoto and Puljujarvi, who are also RHS, but wingers.

The Oil are actually in a good spot when it comes to young talent looking to break into the league. Established talent to insulate those guys is the issue for the Oil. Roslovic wouldn't solve that.

He is a better skater than Marody and is currently better than the other wingers you mentioned too. He had a 24 point season playing like....10 minutes a game on the 4th line because their forwards are stacked. That's why he was rumored to ask for a trade.

 

[Canovin]

Jets are thin on LD? Maybe Sekera+ for Roslovic?

 

[booyakasha]

Wowowowow....
That is brutal

 

[Paralyzer]

Wowowowow....
That is brutal

 

[Stud Muffin]

Wow with that deal we’re going to be paying Hall 10m

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Skinner a 9 million player? lol

I know he scored 40 but his career high in points is 63...that's insane

 

[soothsayer]

Skinner a 9 million player? lol

I know he scored 40 but his career high in points is 63...that's insane

Matthews' agent would have got Skinner 12.

 

[McDrai]

If Skinner gets 9 mil on a long term deal then Marner has to be at least 11 million...good luck Toronto

 

[The Nuge]

Skinner a 9 million player? lol

I know he scored 40 but his career high in points is 63...that's insane

Ya he’s a player where you expect like 30-25-55. 9 million is staggeringly bad. This is going to go down as yet another bad contract given out after a career year

 

[dustrock]

If Skinner gets 9 mil on a long term deal then Marner has to be at least 11 million...good luck Toronto

Yeah no doubt the Leafs would have preferred Skinner not extend before the Marner deal was done ha ha ha