Speculation: Rumour, Trade, and Free Agent Speculation 2018-19 - Part IV

[Maukkis]

At a thousand again. Let's re-wind.

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[voyageur]

I think Anchorage in the KHL would make sense. They are too far adrift from continental North America to sustain a sports team. With a Trump/Putin transcontinental railroad to Siberia, you could have an Anchoradge-Vladivlostok game.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I think Anchorage in the KHL would make sense. They are too far adrift from continental North America to sustain a sports team. With a Trump/Putin transcontinental railroad to Siberia, you could have an Anchoradge-Vladivlostok game.

Credit for creative thinking.
That trip is 19h, 35m - by air. Anchorage to Seattle is 3h, 40m.

 

[Duke749]

Not at all... hate away. But we're going to get screwed over no matter what happens here.
Pretending it's 2020-21 (Minus the Trouba speculation)

Ehlers-Scheifele-Wheeler
Connor-Roslovic-Laine
Vesalainen-Little-Appleton
Suess-Lowry-Copp

Morrissey-Trouba*
Niku-Byfuglien
Samberg-Poolman

Hellebuyck
Berdin


Ask yourself who you'd get rid of from this list. Salary Cap problems are on the horizon for us, some players have NTC/NMC, some players are bound to be top six forwards on other teams who could get more ice-time and not with the Jets. Some people might have different opinions than I do, but I say drop Little. But to make sure Seattle takes Little, we'd have to do something similar to what Columbus/Minnesota did, heck even us when we got Vegas to take Thorburn. Seattle might not want to take him, so we might have to give up players we could easily replace. Appleton would be their William Karlsson/Jonathan Marchessault. We might have more than enough prospects by then, so we might not even have to worry.

I could be wrong and it would be easy to get Seattle to take Little for as little (no pun intended) as a 3rd round pick. But I say Little because then, Jack Roslovic would probably take over his spot by then.

We don’t have to give up players for them to take one. Idk why you think we have to give up all those assets. It makes no sense. It’s not hate at all. We expose players. They take one. It’s that simple. What makes you think we have to give up alllll that?

 

[BigZ65]

Wouldn’t it be interesting if every team could take the Vegas deal, forfeit your share of expansion fee and keep your team intact?

I wonder how many teams would do that...probably none.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Wouldn’t it be interesting if every team could take the Vegas deal, forfeit your share of expansion fee and keep your team intact?

I wonder how many teams would do that...probably none.

It would be interesting if that was even an option that teams could opt out. I wonder who would. Probably the contenders as they know there is more money in winning a cup than the 21 mil one off.

 

[voyageur]

We don’t have to give up players for them to take one. Idk why you think we have to give up all those assets. It makes no sense. It’s not hate at all. We expose players. They take one. It’s that simple. What makes you think we have to give up alllll that?

I think the extra year helps a lot, because the Jets will not have to protect Lowry or Buff, can negotiate with them after the expansion draft. If Lowry walks well I don't think Seattle would take Little, and we'd have a capable #3 centre. Maybe by then Roslovic could be defensively dominant. I think by that time, Lowry will be in the range for $5m per year, so it's probably not much of a difference financially between him and Little. If Dr. Suess continues his development you may have a suitable cost effective replacement for Lowry.

We may lose one of Niku or Stanley though, perhaps even Berdin, so you have to prepare for that as management.

 

[voyageur]

Credit for creative thinking.
That trip is 19h, 35m - by air. Anchorage to Seattle is 3h, 40m.

I wrote this post, before looking at my globe. Yeah it's a bit of time travelling

 

[Belzebob]

I think Anchorage in the KHL would make sense. They are too far adrift from continental North America to sustain a sports team. With a Trump/Putin transcontinental railroad to Siberia, you could have an Anchoradge-Vladivlostok game.

it is all timing.

if anchorage had been awarded seattle's team a year or two ago.

we could of exposed trouba in the expansion draft

 

[voyageur]

I'm interested in the Brassard rumours. Because I think that makes us very strong down the middle. I think there would be some apprehension on Maurice's part to have Roslovic at centre to start the playoffs, on account of inexperience. With him on the wing, he's a lot more versatile. A guy who could play on Lowry's wing, in Armia's role, and increase the possession potential of the line. His apprenticeship as a centre increases his versatility.

If Scheifele goes down at any time, our options at 1C are Little, Roslovic or Wheeler, and I think Wheeler would prefer to play as winger. Brassard was a #1C for the Rangers 3 seasons ago, 3 teams ago. I don't know if he's fallen off or hasn't fit since then.

I think the Pens regretted trading Reaves for him. Because the East has some big hitters, and that's where the Pens have fallen behind the times.

Lemieux I could see being showcased as that type of player, maybe we give up our 2nd as Brassard won't be worth a 1st again. I'd like to keep Petan as the 13th forward. Appleton becomes a depth player, which is necessary for a run. Could have Veselainen on the other wing as depth in April. And then Dano is always around. Logan Shaw can play in the NHL if needed too.

 

[Adam da bomb]

I'm interested in the Brassard rumours. Because I think that makes us very strong down the middle. I think there would be some apprehension on Maurice's part to have Roslovic at centre to start the playoffs, on account of inexperience. With him on the wing, he's a lot more versatile. A guy who could play on Lowry's wing, in Armia's role, and increase the possession potential of the line. His apprenticeship as a centre increases his versatility.

If Scheifele goes down at any time, our options at 1C are Little, Roslovic or Wheeler, and I think Wheeler would prefer to play as winger. Brassard was a #1C for the Rangers 3 seasons ago, 3 teams ago. I don't know if he's fallen off or hasn't fit since then.

I think the Pens regretted trading Reaves for him. Because the East has some big hitters, and that's where the Pens have fallen behind the times.

Lemieux I could see being showcased as that type of player, maybe we give up our 2nd as Brassard won't be worth a 1st again. I'd like to keep Petan as the 13th forward. Appleton becomes a depth player, which is necessary for a run. Could have Veselainen on the other wing as depth in April. And then Dano is always around. Logan Shaw can play in the NHL if needed too.

If either Little or Shief get injured I imagine Rosie is first up. I can't see any apprehension at all. If the offering price is Lemieux and a 2nd I'd consider it. Wonder whether Petan or Lemieux get the next game if Copp can't go. Dano is done in the NHL I think.

 

[BigZ65]

I don't think Brassard is a good fit here. I don't think he's a "Central Division" player. I was glad we missed out on him last season.

D and PK specialist is a far bigger need for us than what Brassard would provide. I'm only dealing for him if Schiefele or Little get injured pre-deadline.

 

[Neuf]

it is all timing.

if anchorage had been awarded seattle's team a year or two ago.

we could of exposed trouba in the expansion draft

Trouba for nothing? What did you solve?

 

[Cellee]

What Brassard rumours?

 

[Belzebob]

Trouba for nothing? What did you solve?

like many others I believe Jacob Trouba's days as a jet are numbered. with his holdouts and arbitration, he is looking for the nearest exit.

if he is going anyway, and trying to influence who he will accept a trade to...….

I would think exposing him in an expansion draft would protect another player who does want to be here.

it is not going to happen, but it would of been an option

 

[Adam da bomb]

like many others I believe Jacob Trouba's days as a jet are numbered. with his holdouts and arbitration, he is looking for the nearest exit.

if he is going anyway, and trying to influence who he will accept a trade to...….

I would think exposing him in an expansion draft would protect another player who does want to be here.

it is not going to happen, but it would of been an option

Trading him we get a lot.

 

[Jets]

What about Buff for Brassard & Maata?

I could see Maata regaining his old form and if not at least he's a decent 2LD behind JMo. Would free some cap space as well, but then we'd pretty much have to re-sign Trouba.

 

[GaryPoppins]

What Brassard rumours?

A Pittsburgh blog had talked about renewed scouting between Jets and Pens. Rumoured that Jets are circling back to Brassard and even have interest in Olli Maatta.

Maatta behind Mo would be disgusting.

 

[voyageur]

I don't think Brassard is a good fit here. I don't think he's a "Central Division" player. I was glad we missed out on him last season.

D and PK specialist is a far bigger need for us than what Brassard would provide. I'm only dealing for him if Schiefele or Little get injured pre-deadline.

I don't know about that.

Roslovic still gets protected by Maurice. And we have for centre depth L. Shaw, Griffith and Suess, which is a fall off from Scheifele and Little.

Ehlers-Scheif-Wheeler
Connor-Little-Laine
Perreault-Brassard-Roslovic
Tanev-Lowry-Copp
Petan

With Appleton fitting on a couple of lines in reserve.

PKers we have

Tanev-Lowry
Copp-Little
Wheeler-Scheif
Connor

Are all able PKers. Roslovic should get some reps.

Where I think Brassard helps is that 2nd PP. He's a pretty good shot

----------------( )---------------
Roslovic

Ehers Perreault Brassard

Morrissey/Trouba

Keep Little fresh for extensive PK duty.

I think Brassard would make it so that every player on the forward lineup has an internal replacement. And centre is the one position that you can have plenty of, and still use them as wingers.

For defense we might have

Morrisey-Buff
Niku-Trouba
Chiarot-Myers
*5 of the d-men are PK stalwarts
-------------------
Kulikov-Poolman
Morrow-Nogier

Niku is the wild card. If he grows over the year, the need for a d-man is reduced. If he doesn't then there is another hole to fill.

There's not a lot of centres on the market this year, I think Brassard, Brock Nelson, Jimmy Hayes, and maybe Anisimov are available.

Brassard was brought in to Pitt to be a 3rd line centre, but he's not a checker. And we have 3 reliable defensive centres. He went within one game of the Stanley Cup finals as the #2 centre, with Turris and Pageau in Ottawa, so he has some game.

I'd be interested at the right price. You can always improve your team.

 

[Hunter368]

I don't know about that.

Roslovic still gets protected by Maurice. And we have for centre depth L. Shaw, Griffith and Suess, which is a fall off from Scheifele and Little.

Ehlers-Scheif-Wheeler
Connor-Little-Laine
Perreault-Brassard-Roslovic
Tanev-Lowry-Copp
Petan

With Appleton fitting on a couple of lines in reserve.

PKers we have

Tanev-Lowry
Copp-Little
Wheeler-Scheif
Connor

Are all able PKers. Roslovic should get some reps.

Where I think Brassard helps is that 2nd PP. He's a pretty good shot

----------------( )---------------
Roslovic

Ehers Perreault Brassard

Morrissey/Trouba

Keep Little fresh for extensive PK duty.

I think Brassard would make it so that every player on the forward lineup has an internal replacement. And centre is the one position that you can have plenty of, and still use them as wingers.

For defense we might have

Morrisey-Buff
Niku-Trouba
Chiarot-Myers
*5 of the d-men are PK stalwarts
-------------------
Kulikov-Poolman
Morrow-Nogier

Niku is the wild card. If he grows over the year, the need for a d-man is reduced. If he doesn't then there is another hole to fill.

There's not a lot of centres on the market this year, I think Brassard, Brock Nelson, Jimmy Hayes, and maybe Anisimov are available.

Brassard was brought in to Pitt to be a 3rd line centre, but he's not a checker. And we have 3 reliable defensive centres. He went within one game of the Stanley Cup finals as the #2 centre, with Turris and Pageau in Ottawa, so he has some game.

I'd be interested at the right price. You can always improve your team.

Like all situations it depends on his cost.....likely too much

 

[enviSAGE]

Sorry for invading, does this move the needle as the base for a trade ?

Maatta + Brassard
for
Roslovic + Perreault

Think Perreault or Roslovic could be dynamite as the type of RW Sid thrives with and either also could be a good 3C for us.

Honestly I love Olli, but GMJR signed JMFJ for five years. Olli would really thrive out in the West too. He and Laine could be best buds. Would also not be surprised if Brass could well resign in WPG too. He really just wants to win, as long as he's paid fair and is a valued piece of a team.

 

[Whileee]

Sorry for invading, does this move the needle as the base for a trade ?

Maatta + Brassard
for
Roslovic + Perreault

Think Perreault or Roslovic could be dynamite as the type of RW Sid thrives with and either also could be a good 3C for us.

Honestly I love Olli, but GMJR signed JMFJ for five years. Olli would really thrive out in the West too. He and Laine could be best buds at least. Would not be surprised if Brass could well resign in WPG too. He really just wants to win as long as he's paid fair and is a valued piece of a team.

I'm not a Maatta fan. His mobility is a real issue.

 

[Maukkis]

Sorry for invading, does this move the needle as the base for a trade ?

Maatta + Brassard
for
Roslovic + Perreault

Think Perreault or Roslovic could be dynamite as the type of RW Sid thrives with and either also could be a good 3C for us.

Honestly I love Olli, but GMJR signed JMFJ for five years. Olli would really thrive out in the West too. He and Laine could be best buds. Would also not be surprised if Brass could well resign in WPG too. He really just wants to win, as long as he's paid fair and is a valued piece of a team.

Arguments like these make me think that you haven't even thought about this proposal. The first two are waffling, and we do not even have money to keep all of our own guys, let alone Brassard.

 

[garret9]

Maybe part of the reason Trouba has battled over $ is because he's been one of the top 30 5v5 point producers in the NHL over the past three seasons. He's also the 6th highest 5v5 point producer relative to ice time and the 33rd highest WAR.

 

[Whileee]

Maybe part of the reason Trouba has battled over $ is because he's been one of the top 30 5v5 point producers in the NHL over the past three seasons. He's also the 6th highest 5v5 point producer relative to ice time and the 33rd highest WAR.

Trouba is currently #35 in cap hit among D, so his arbitration award seems in line with his WAR impact.

I've advocated for a salary in the $8 million range for him, which would put him tied for #3 among D. $7.5M, which would be easier to manage under the cap, would put him at #8 among D.