Proposal: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Stauffer Speculates About Another NCAA Forward Signing?

[Cerebral]

Fayne and Kulemin both have 2 years left but Fayne's cap hit is ~500k left.

Kulemin's a decent player and he was a right shot I'd be fine with it but adding another expensive left shot would be tough.

I figure taking the extra $500K would partially address the salary difference between Eberle and Hamonic. The reality is that Hamonic is on a steal of a contract and having him in the lineup would give us a lot more financial flexibility in the future. I figure he's underpaid by at least $2M and possibly more in this economic climate.

If Kulemin is a disaster, I suspect the Oilers would just waive him down to Bakersfield and take the hit like they did with Fayne this year.

 

[MinimaMoralia]

I could see us retaining on Eberle on a Hamonic deal. Hamonic's cap hit is crazy low for what he brings. We would benefit in the end even if we retained 2 million on Eberle since Hamonic's deal is a season longer.

Y'know, if Eberle's contract was only for 4-4.5 Million a season, that would be just about perfect. Either to keep him or as a trading piece.
But nooooo. They had to lump him in with Hall and RNH as part of the six million dollar core.

 

[Birdperson]

I figure taking the extra $500K would partially address the salary difference between Eberle and Hamonic. The reality is that Hamonic is on a steal of a contract and having him in the lineup would give us a lot more financial flexibility in the future. I figure he's underpaid by at least $2M and possibly more in this economic climate.

If Kulemin is a disaster, I suspect the Oilers would just waive him down to Bakersfield and take the hit like they did with Fayne this year.

Yeah, that'd be pretty stomach-able. I think he PKs well so there's that?

 

[Joey Moss]

Y'know, if Eberle's contract was only for 4-4.5 Million a season, that would be just about perfect. Either to keep him or as a trading piece.
But nooooo. They had to lump him in with Hall and RNH as part of the six million dollar core.

So you think a reasonable price for a guy capable of scoring 30 goals and 65 points a year is in the 4-4.5 range?

 

[OilTastic]

^no!!

 

[belair]

One piece I'd be intrigued in trying to acquire from the Islanders is Dal Colle. He's a big winger whose stock is pretty down for being drafted 5th overall two years ago but he put up great numbers in the OHL for Kingston after getting dealt from Oshawa where he was struggling. If the Islanders insist on a guy like Nurse being involved in the deal, Dal Colle is one name that interests me along with Anders Lee.

Dal Colle would be an awesome pickup. The kid oozes talent. But I think he's a guy Snow hopes to fill JT's LW in the coming years at a cheap rate. Seeing how Snow likes his cheap contracts, plucking his blue chip prospects from him seems like a difficult task.

 

[McWeber]

Y'know, if Eberle's contract was only for 4-4.5 Million a season, that would be just about perfect. Either to keep him or as a trading piece.
But nooooo. They had to lump him in with Hall and RNH as part of the six million dollar core.

Pretty sure when Eberle signed that contract he was coming off his career year 34 goals and 76 points. Seemed like a good deal at the time and I still dont hate it.

 

[Fourier]

I figure taking the extra $500K would partially address the salary difference between Eberle and Hamonic. The reality is that Hamonic is on a steal of a contract and having him in the lineup would give us a lot more financial flexibility in the future. I figure he's underpaid by at least $2M and possibly more in this economic climate.

If Kulemin is a disaster, I suspect the Oilers would just waive him down to Bakersfield and take the hit like they did with Fayne this year.

For the Oilers Hamonic is a bargain because of his cap hit. But he will be making $4.875M in real dollars until his deal is done. The Islanders are more interested in salary than cap. Kulimen vs Fayne saves them a fair bit as Fayne will make $3.5M for the next two years and Kulimen makes $4.25 next year and $5.25 in the last year of his deal. So in terms of real dollars that deal is actually pretty much a wash with a slight plus for the Islanders.

 

[Jeff Lebowski]

Hopefully the Islanders get eliminated tonight. Maybe then we'll find out sooner if a deal is on the table.

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Hopefully the Islanders get eliminated tonight. Maybe then we'll find out sooner if a deal is on the table.

Yep. I once cheered for the Isles a my second team.

Enter HFisles fans. Spite, eh? Don't mind if I do.

 

[McBooya42]

Y'know, if Eberle's contract was only for 4-4.5 Million a season, that would be just about perfect. Either to keep him or as a trading piece.
But nooooo. They had to lump him in with Hall and RNH as part of the six million dollar core.

Exactly what year do you think this is? Lol
He's getting paid exactly what you'd expect for a scoring winger with his numbers.

 

[Pointteen]

Exactly what year do you think this is? Lol
He's getting paid exactly what you'd expect for a scoring winger with his numbers.

As a UFA Eberle would get 7 with at least a NTC.

 

[Smartguy]

As a UFA Eberle would get 7 with at least a NTC.

Agreed eberle takes a lot of crap on this board despite doing the hardest thing in today's game and that's score, he's a perennial 25 goal scorer and I bet with a full year alongside mcdavid he's a 30 plus goal scorer, those are expensive assets

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Yep. I once cheered for the Isles a my second team.

Enter HFisles fans. Spite, eh? Don't mind if I do.

Down 2-0 after 1. To Tampa. Minus Stralman and Stamkos.

 

[Spawn]

Watching Dumba in this WHC and I've got myself thinking that I have never seen a game where he has impressed me. Looks like a 3rd pairing guy with questionable IQ offensively and defensively, and he's undersized... And despite being lauded for his shot, it doesn't actually seem all that effective.

No way would this guy be a primary target for me.

 

[frag2]

Watching Dumba in this WHC and I've got myself thinking that I have never seen a game where he has impressed me. Looks like a 3rd pairing guy with questionable IQ offensively and defensively, and he's undersized... And despite being lauded for his shot, it doesn't actually seem all that effective.

No way would this guy be a primary target for me.

The only thing IMO that Dumba brings is the hitting the odd time and a somewhat hard shot.

 

[McFlyingV]

Watching Dumba in this WHC and I've got myself thinking that I have never seen a game where he has impressed me. Looks like a 3rd pairing guy with questionable IQ offensively and defensively, and he's undersized... And despite being lauded for his shot, it doesn't actually seem all that effective.

No way would this guy be a primary target for me.

I've said this for a while. He is a very dumb player, and whether thats just a lasting image from the WJC's when he was Canada's worst dman or not I'm not sure. Every other time I've seen him though he hasn't looked good. He's a good skater who can throw big hits, but he's overmatched physically in front of the net and on the boards, makes numerous stupid decisions, and his offensive game at the very best might match Vatanen in his prime, but even thats extremely questionable.

 

[Philly85*]

Watching Dumba in this WHC and I've got myself thinking that I have never seen a game where he has impressed me. Looks like a 3rd pairing guy with questionable IQ offensively and defensively, and he's undersized... And despite being lauded for his shot, it doesn't actually seem all that effective.

No way would this guy be a primary target for me.

he's nothing special, I frown when I hear his name being mentioned as a target

 

[SupremeTeam16]

Isles are a garbage team. They badly need a solid goaltender and some scoring, if JT isn't scoring then it isn't getting done. I'm sure he's gonna be thrilled when they let their 2nd leading scorer and the only other guy on that team who can create offense consistently walk because they are too cheap to pay him.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Watching Dumba in this WHC and I've got myself thinking that I have never seen a game where he has impressed me. Looks like a 3rd pairing guy with questionable IQ offensively and defensively, and he's undersized... And despite being lauded for his shot, it doesn't actually seem all that effective.

No way would this guy be a primary target for me.

My head hurts when I see people proposing RNH for Dumba.

 

[CM4]

Isles are a garbage team. They badly need a solid goaltender and some scoring, if JT isn't scoring then it isn't getting done. I'm sure he's gonna be thrilled when they let their 2nd leading scorer and the only other guy on that team who can create offense consistently walk because they are too cheap to pay him.

Garbage teams don't make it to the 2nd round of playoffs. If Islanders are "garbage" does that make Oilers flaming dog crap?

 

[s7ark]

Garbage teams don't make it to the 2nd round of playoffs. If Islanders are "garbage" does that make Oilers flaming dog crap?

Calgary made the 2nd round last year. All it takes is a lucky matchup.

Most teams in the east aren't great. The Isle included. Put them in the west and they miss the playoffs.

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

Calgary made the 2nd round last year. All it takes is a lucky matchup.

Most teams in the east aren't great. The Isle included. Put them in the west and they miss the playoffs.

Yeah I agree. I don't envy Islander fans. Hamonic will be gone, Okposo and Martin likely gone. I won't be surprised if Tavares leaves too. I think Garth Snow's team has peaked.

 

[nexttothemoon]

With Yak basically having both feet out the door and most here willing to wave goodbye to Eberle (and even see the team retain salary to get rid of him)... what exactly will this team have on the RW for depth?

I know some think Eberle is one-dimensional but the Oilers will be no-dimensional on the right side with him gone.

Is Caggiula ready for #1RW duty... or is that job open for Dubois when he's drafted by the Oilers in June?

I'm being a little facetious saying that... but they basically NEED to pick up a solid winger this summer (like Okposo) if Eberle is being shipped out.

Pakarinen
Kassian
Cracknell

Not exactly a stellar RW group... even though I like all three of those players... they really aren't ready to be stapled to the top 6.

 

[McShogun99]

Agreed eberle takes a lot of crap on this board despite doing the hardest thing in today's game and that's score, he's a perennial 25 goal scorer and I bet with a full year alongside mcdavid he's a 30 plus goal scorer, those are expensive assets

We are going to miss Eberle once he's traded. He's been one of the league's top scoring RW's since he entered the league. Remove him and it leave's a huge hole on the right side.

Garbage teams don't make it to the 2nd round of playoffs. If Islanders are "garbage" does that make Oilers flaming dog crap?

10 years of no playoffs, 4 1st OA's and the other years being top 10 picks. I think you answered your own question. Put NYI in the West and they don't make the playoffs.