Proposal: Rumors and Proposals Thread: Will the Supposed Veteran D That We're Targeting Please Stand Up?

[belair]

Not surprising.

 

[StevenF1919]

Brandon Pirri on waivers. I would put a claim in for him.

 

[backhandsauce]

I would pick up Pirri and waive Cagguila.

 

[Giggli G]

Well, the entire team had the same offseason and there's only one player watching from the press-box.

This isn't always a death knell. Remember when Tkachuk came to Blues camp looking like jabba the hut and they suspended him? Dude still scored 27 goals that year.

Lol, Daddy Tkachuk was a legend.

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

Brandon Pirri on waivers. I would put a claim in for him.

I would pick up Pirri and waive Cagguila.

Why? Cagguila and Pirri had identical stats 2 seasons ago. Last year Drake scored 13 goals in the NHL, Pirri was in the AHL last year and couldn't crack a club again this year.

I'm all for improving on Cagguila, but Pirri is a step back and older at that. We have better options internally, and I'm sure better options externally that are cheap to acquire if we really want to go there.

 

[Seedling]

It would be tempting to pick up Smith and put together a package with Kass, Benning and a pick for a proper top 4 D man, if that's possible. Ceci is a good suggestion noted above plus something else coming back. Not sure if Ceci is much better than Benning though. Might be best to stay put. I don't like our goaltending backup though.

 

[The Safe Play]

It would be tempting to pick up Smith and put together a package with Kass, Benning and a pick for a proper top 4 D man, if that's possible. Ceci is a good suggestion noted above.

Benning is already better than Ceci. I would love to upgrade RHD for the second pair - but it is definitely not Ceci.

 

[Tw0Shoes]

> Remember when Tkachuk came to Blues camp looking like jabba the hut and they suspended him? Dude still scored 27 goals that year.

No he didn't.
He only played half the season and scored 15 goals.

 

[Seedling]

Benning is already better than Ceci. I would love to upgrade RHD for the second pair - but it is definitely not Ceci.

Yeah, I typed that before I looked at some stats and vids. I edited my post to reflect that.

 

[Faelko]

It would be tempting to pick up Smith and put together a package with Kass, Benning and a pick for a proper top 4 D man, if that's possible. Ceci is a good suggestion noted above plus something else coming back. Not sure if Ceci is much better than Benning though. Might be best to stay put. I don't like our goaltending backup though.

Whoever you get for that 2RHD is only a placeholder for Bouchard. Honestly our RHD might be set for years with Larson, Bouchard, Bear and Benning.

 

[StevenF1919]

Why? Cagguila and Pirri had identical stats 2 seasons ago. Last year Drake scored 13 goals in the NHL, Pirri was in the AHL last year and couldn't crack a club again this year.

I'm all for improving on Cagguila, but Pirri is a step back and older at that. We have better options internally, and I'm sure better options externally that are cheap to acquire if we really want to go there.

Pirri is the better player. Over the last three seasons they've played almost the exact same amount of games (Pirri has played 4 less) and Pirri beats Caggiula in pretty much every ES stat, and didn't have the benefit of getting gifted playing time with McDavid.

Anything to get Caggiula out of the lineup is good imo.

 

[nexttothemoon]

I'm certainly not the biggest Caggiula fan.. but I don't know if the Oilers will be going in the direction of waiver pickups when they still have Chiasson/Aberg/McLeod in camp + players like Benson/Marody down in the AHL.

Not saying that all those players are definitely better than what might show up on the waiver wire... but those waiver wire players are not definitely clearly better either.

The team has 16 forwards in camp and at least a couple in the AHL that might get some time with the team this season as well so I think they probably have enough internal options that they'll focus on those instead of picking up yet another contract on waivers.

 

[joestevens29]

For him, I wonder if it was "out of shape" or didn't have much offseason to train because of his condition post-playoffs. I'm more inclined to see that scenario, though it's not good

I really hope he's not that much overweight. Short off-season should result in less time for him to get fat. Players generally lose a bunch of weight throughout the year, so that should help him.

 

[joestevens29]

Pirri is the better player. Over the last three seasons they've played almost the exact same amount of games (Pirri has played 4 less) and Pirri beats Caggiula in pretty much every ES stat, and didn't have the benefit of getting gifted playing time with McDavid.

Anything to get Caggiula out of the lineup is good imo.

Pirri never even played in the NHL last year. No point to go after a guy that is always available and always on waivers. At best it's a wash and that's being generous.

 

[Mcnotloilersfan]

Pirri is the better player. Over the last three seasons they've played almost the exact same amount of games (Pirri has played 4 less) and Pirri beats Caggiula in pretty much every ES stat, and didn't have the benefit of getting gifted playing time with McDavid.

Anything to get Caggiula out of the lineup is good imo.

If he were the better player, he would have been in the NHL last season. He wouldn't have been cut again this season.

 

[nhlisajoke]

atleast Corey Perry is out for 5 months

 

[oobga]

atleast Corey Perry is out for 5 months

awwww poor Corey. I feel so bad for him....

 

[Senor Catface]

atleast Corey Perry is out for 5 months

I'm all for the Ducks doing worse, but I wonder how he recovers from this. He's already two seasons in to being a 18 goal guy and getting knee surgery at 33 will just slow him down even more.

Retirement by 36 is my guess.

 

[joestevens29]

I'm all for the Ducks doing worse, but I wonder how he recovers from this. He's already two seasons in to being a 18 goal guy and getting knee surgery at 33 will just slow him down even more.

Retirement by 36 is my guess.

Essentially the end of his contract? The team just can't afford him to lose yet another step while making 8.6mil

 

[Senor Catface]

Essentially the end of his contract? The team just can't afford him to lose yet another step while making 8.6mil

Is that when it ends? I didn't look it up. I was just thinking of when his body will likely crap out on him.

 

[belair]

atleast Corey Perry is out for 5 months

That's five months of LTIR. Not good for us. Perry was done anyways.

 

[SK13]

That's five months of LTIR. Not good for us. Perry was done anyways.

Similar to Sekera, it's only useful if they can work it. I mean, what are they going to do? Trade for Matt Duchene, at best? Kesler is hobbled, Perry was still probably about a 20-30-50 guy and they were wack at forward when healthy. If Gibson doesn't stand on his head, they miss the playoffs easy and they're unlikely to get .926 from their tandem again.

It will make it easier for them to get Richie done before the season I guess. That was always going to happen, though.

 

[A91]

Benning is already better than Ceci. I would love to upgrade RHD for the second pair - but it is definitely not Ceci.

Not a chance.
Ceci is trash, im not a fan of his. But Benning is easily worse than him.

 

[joestevens29]

Similar to Sekera, it's only useful if they can work it. I mean, what are they going to do? Trade for Matt Duchene, at best? Kesler is hobbled, Perry was still probably about a 20-30-50 guy and they were wack at forward when healthy. If Gibson doesn't stand on his head, they miss the playoffs easy and they're unlikely to get .926 from their tandem again.

It will make it easier for them to get Richie done before the season I guess. That was always going to happen, though.

Unlike us ANA has internal cap, if insured this means ANA will have some more dollars to spend now.

 

[The Safe Play]

Not a chance.
Ceci is trash, im not a fan of his. But Benning is easily worse than him.

Last year,

Benning 73 GP: 6-15-21 +5
Ceci 82 GP: 5-14-19 -27

Someone can throw in the advanced stats but I know for sure Benning's are better.