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Rumor: Rumors and Proposals Thread | Oilers Have Kicked Tires on Some Veteran UFA Defencemen
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That would require signing Harmonic to multi year contract.
Larsson is younger and better of the 2.
Doesn't make sense unless we are shipping out Larsson in a trade right away
Bryanbryoil
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Larsson's history of back issues really has me concerned about his career long term. He plays best when he plays a physical game. That is tough to do regularly when you have back issues.
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Would rather go after Dougie Hamilton in the off-season with our extra cap space than chase a Hamonic.
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Who says that he comes here? Barrie is first in line to get a nice UFA contract if he fits in well here.
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If we are factoring in health issues and durability then Hamonic would not be a good target.
Seth Jones has 1 year left after this year. I'd look in to that, maybe see if CBJ would be willing to build a deal around Klef. Trade Larsson away if there aren't plans to re-sign him. Re-sign Barrie if possible.
Nurse - S. Jones
C. Jones - Bear
Lagesson/Broberg - Barrie/Bouchard
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Took a pill in Sbisa
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No idea, just hoping. I'd be happy with Barrie as a plan B if he works out this season.
Took a pill in Sbisa
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He's the Jackets franchise player, can't see him not getting whatever he wants from Cbus
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I tweeted this out 9 days ago
to your usual flaming stations
from what I gather is the the problem with Hamonic and the Oilers is two fold. Hamonic wants a multi-year deal (the Oilers are offering 1--expansion draft protection is Russel already and they would rather keep Hamonic) the second is the Oilers are trying to move a FW out to free up money to sign Hamonic
a few things confuse me (shocking I know)
1) Progression of Bear talks? When do we get concerned about him not being signed
2) Oilers have 15 FWDS signed at this point. Are either Haas and Nygard back in Edmonton yet?
3) With the AHL season still up in the air--Do teams run with a Black aces team
4)Oilers have 7 D on loan to Europe. I realize not all will be back in NA for this season. The Oilers look to have a few NHL ready D men-led bt=y Bouchard--why are the oilers still looking to add another D? Is there another injury we do no know about?
to your usual flaming stations
from what I gather is the the problem with Hamonic and the Oilers is two fold. Hamonic wants a multi-year deal (the Oilers are offering 1--expansion draft protection is Russel already and they would rather keep Hamonic) the second is the Oilers are trying to move a FW out to free up money to sign Hamonic
a few things confuse me (shocking I know)
1) Progression of Bear talks? When do we get concerned about him not being signed
2) Oilers have 15 FWDS signed at this point. Are either Haas and Nygard back in Edmonton yet?
3) With the AHL season still up in the air--Do teams run with a Black aces team
4)Oilers have 7 D on loan to Europe. I realize not all will be back in NA for this season. The Oilers look to have a few NHL ready D men-led bt=y Bouchard--why are the oilers still looking to add another D? Is there another injury we do no know about?
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I'd like to see an old fashion trade with a prospect or pick thrown in so we might even get a little cap relief. Fortune favors the bold but let us hope management gets it right this time. Please do something right for once.
The law of averages has to be in our favor. Right? I know, mathematically in Oilerville it don't work like that... ahhhh. The Oiler's average on successful trade transactions hasn't been good at all... over so such a long long long period of time. Yes, it deserves LONG in triplicate.
Even getting rid of boat anchor, Lucic, we had to take on a bad contract in Neal, keep paying Lucic for the entirety of that horrendous contract signed by that equally horrendous GM (I had something really nasty in these parentheses that would have got me a strike so I removed it). He was set on destroying the Oiler's future. It almost seems by plan or mandate... and then having the league drag us over the coals just to rub it in, completely screwing us for a pick... and this is the BEST trade I can think of off the top of my head.
We sign a GM, it costs us a pick. We sign a coach, it costs us a pick. BOTH ATROCIOUSLY SUCKED LIKE A NEW STAR WARS MOVIE while we deserve "A NEW HOPE" !
I want to see a trade but we are all out of second and third rounders NHL. It's enough to make you question the trustworthiness of the league. As an Oiler fan I've seen my club, the team I bleed for, prop up so many other teams for so long... when is it our turn NHL? The Edmonton Oilers have been a feeder system and farm club to the big American markets for the entire lifetime of the average fan.
Do the faithful fans really deserve what might be the most unsuccessful and unproductive streak in all of professional sports? No, we do not. We are good people not rubes to be tormented.
The law of averages has to be in our favor. Right? I know, mathematically in Oilerville it don't work like that... ahhhh. The Oiler's average on successful trade transactions hasn't been good at all... over so such a long long long period of time. Yes, it deserves LONG in triplicate.
Even getting rid of boat anchor, Lucic, we had to take on a bad contract in Neal, keep paying Lucic for the entirety of that horrendous contract signed by that equally horrendous GM (I had something really nasty in these parentheses that would have got me a strike so I removed it). He was set on destroying the Oiler's future. It almost seems by plan or mandate... and then having the league drag us over the coals just to rub it in, completely screwing us for a pick... and this is the BEST trade I can think of off the top of my head.
We sign a GM, it costs us a pick. We sign a coach, it costs us a pick. BOTH ATROCIOUSLY SUCKED LIKE A NEW STAR WARS MOVIE while we deserve "A NEW HOPE" !
I want to see a trade but we are all out of second and third rounders NHL. It's enough to make you question the trustworthiness of the league. As an Oiler fan I've seen my club, the team I bleed for, prop up so many other teams for so long... when is it our turn NHL? The Edmonton Oilers have been a feeder system and farm club to the big American markets for the entire lifetime of the average fan.
Do the faithful fans really deserve what might be the most unsuccessful and unproductive streak in all of professional sports? No, we do not. We are good people not rubes to be tormented.
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Bouchard still needs to learn and practice in his defensive zone coverage....he has improved alot this last partial AHL season and his trajectory has me excited --maybe we will get the Jay Bo that never was--
Hopefully practicing at the NHL level and learning against these guys he starts to sporadically getting injected into the line up and by the end of the season becomes a better all around option that Barrie.
So to answer ur number 4...(not sure about ur other 3....maybe we carry 23 + 6?)
Nurse (occasional brain fart but steadily improving) Bear (Sophomore risk but steady+tantalizing upside)
Jones (risk-not a second pair yet) Larsson (wonky back-high risk?)
Russell (not here for a long time) Barrie (peeking out of dog house-"I want to fly coach")
Lagesson (am i good enough) Bouchard (not quite ready--multiple cups of coffee)
Risk is so high. Makes sense to bring in a steady vet presense. I know ur going to say that Hamonic is a free agent for a reason. Yes he needs fixing. Most of his bad decisions were in the O zone. I think he can be remade with some hard work and fairly quickly. Hope Holland gives him two years. There is a defensive specialist with a great first pass and excellent transition hidden in Hamonic! Right now he pinches in Ozone at wrong times, he makes questionable reads on developing plays, he frequently cant get his shot through, and wilts occaisionally (graphically) under pressure. By limiting his responsibilities most of this can be disciplined out of him.
Hopefully practicing at the NHL level and learning against these guys he starts to sporadically getting injected into the line up and by the end of the season becomes a better all around option that Barrie.
So to answer ur number 4...(not sure about ur other 3....maybe we carry 23 + 6?)
Nurse (occasional brain fart but steadily improving) Bear (Sophomore risk but steady+tantalizing upside)
Jones (risk-not a second pair yet) Larsson (wonky back-high risk?)
Russell (not here for a long time) Barrie (peeking out of dog house-"I want to fly coach")
Lagesson (am i good enough) Bouchard (not quite ready--multiple cups of coffee)
Risk is so high. Makes sense to bring in a steady vet presense. I know ur going to say that Hamonic is a free agent for a reason. Yes he needs fixing. Most of his bad decisions were in the O zone. I think he can be remade with some hard work and fairly quickly. Hope Holland gives him two years. There is a defensive specialist with a great first pass and excellent transition hidden in Hamonic! Right now he pinches in Ozone at wrong times, he makes questionable reads on developing plays, he frequently cant get his shot through, and wilts occaisionally (graphically) under pressure. By limiting his responsibilities most of this can be disciplined out of him.
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This rube hopes he continues to be tormented!
Let Hollandaise do what he is good at--
He is not trader joe cause he has learned not to be! He cant make high level trades or multi-faceted ones--if he does you will hate the results--if he does might push u closer to the edge.
The man is a fixer--let him fix things.
Hamonic wanting a multi-year deal is likely why he remains unsigned.
Would love to see the Oilers move out Chiasson and Khaira. Sign Bear now and Hamonic on the first day of the season when Klefbom is officially moved to LTIR.
Moving out two forwards and bringing in somebody else on D is the best path forward. Assuming neither Bear nor Hamonic get big money that would leave cap room for insurance if goaltending falls apart or injuries it.
Would love to see the Oilers move out Chiasson and Khaira. Sign Bear now and Hamonic on the first day of the season when Klefbom is officially moved to LTIR.
Moving out two forwards and bringing in somebody else on D is the best path forward. Assuming neither Bear nor Hamonic get big money that would leave cap room for insurance if goaltending falls apart or injuries it.
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Not 'if' ...when
Unsure which forwards Holland moves...
Give Hamonic <2m for two years??
Not super sure about the second year. He had some injury last year. Anybody know what it was and where he is at with it? I can only find "upper body" as a description.
If healthy, I like Hamonic as an option if the camp competition between Lennstrom/Bouchard/Berglund/Lagesson doesn't provide at least two credible options for 7D.
Hamonic might be the kind of guy that Seattle grabs so 2 years wouldn't be awful.
You want to move out Khaira, a good penalty killer, just because he had a bad offensive season?..
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he was absolute garbage at everything other than the PK
More than just one bad offensive season. Khaira has been inconsistent his entire career. His career arc has plateaued the last two seasons. The Oilers need more depth scoring. That ain't Khaira.
Haas brings a pretty comparable grittiness for $285K less plus more offensive potential. Getting rid of Khaira with Haas ready to take over would be effective cap management.
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