Rumor: Rumors and Proposals Thread | Grosenick on His Way to EDM - Dell Claimed by Devils

[Bryanbryoil]

Meh. Decent bet at “zero” cost. Better than a Peter Panic move.

Tells us a lot about how the organization views Skinner.

Skinner isn't ready. There is no better way to ruin a prospect than to throw them head first into the deep end of a situation that is way over their head. IMO Skinner still has time as a prospect, but he is not NHL ready yet and should only be used in an emergency.

 

[Oilhawks]

Meh. Decent bet at “zero” cost. Better than a Peter Panic move.

Tells us a lot about how the organization views Skinner.

To be fair, I wouldn’t want to shove most 22 year old prospect goalies into a backup situation like that. Skinner is much better off getting another season or two in Bakersfield

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Waiver wire probably a better bet than signing Howard or spending assets on washed up or unproven goalie. Wish Holland had done something different in hindsight though.

I would sign Howard anyway. Let him come in, see which of the 2 is better and then try to sneak the lesser of the two onto the taxi squad.

 

[AsparaGus]

I believe that we are still looking at a long term solution in goal. That said a guy like Chiasson doesn't pull that unless you get lucky like the Erat for Forsberg deal. Does Washington have a good 3rd goalie?

1. Pheonix Copley
2. Zachary Fucale

I think Chaiss could get either one with a pick attached.

The Caps have waaay too many goalies.

 

[PBandJ]

Annoys me that this happened. 900 year old Mike Smith may not have the durability to keep going? You don't f***ing say.

 

[NotAVacuumSalesman]

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[NotAVacuumSalesman]

I believe that we are still looking at a long term solution in goal. That said a guy like Chiasson doesn't pull that unless you get lucky like the Erat for Forsberg deal. Does Washington have a good 3rd goalie?

Vitek Vanecek played last night. Ilya Samsonov backed him up.

Craig Anderson was signed on the 13th. And then there's Pheonix Copley in their taxi squad.

 

[McDNicks17]

1. Pheonix Copley
2. Zachary Fucale

I think Chaiss could get either one with a pick attached.

The Caps have waaay too many goalies.

Fucale is more of a ECHL starter/AHL backup right now, so I wonder if they want to keep Copley for the AHL starting job.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Skinner isn't ready. There is no better way to ruin a prospect than to throw them head first into the deep end of a situation that is way over their head. IMO Skinner still has time as a prospect, but he is not NHL ready yet and should only be used in an emergency.

they definitely don’t want to Bunz him, where he got shellacked so badly he never recovered

 

[Anarchism]

Its a bit early to pay the piper but we may be in a bit of a bind.

Benson, Lavoie and their choice of Skinner or Konovalov

for

Adin Hill

 

[Samus44]

Meh. Decent bet at “zero” cost. Better than a Peter Panic move.

Tells us a lot about how the organization views Skinner.

Not really. Skinner would have been a rookie pro last season if Chiarelli wasn't a moron. Chiarelli mismanaged him and turned him pro a season early, the same season as Wells and at the same time they had to sign Hawkey a guy they traded for, when he still could of returned to junior. What happened is the didn't sign Hawkey while a longshot but older Wells and Skinner got in each others way as they battled for time in the ECHL. The reason they turned him pro is because they really liked him and he was excellent in junior. Given his age it's possible he's still a real prospect and he just needs a chance to establish himself with a reasonable chance to succeed. It's not looking great but he was only 21 last year and many goalies take until they're 24 to really make it with good ones being in the ECHL, NCAA, or playing in pro European feeder leagues at the same age. Goalies are voodoo and he could certainly rebound with Mackenzie Blackwood being the comparable hope at this point. He was highly touted coming out of junior and he's got dealt a poor hand un until now and I think Holland knows it. It's fair to say Skinner is probably in a make or break year and I suspect the team just wants to give him a real chance to succeed because of it. It's about establishing a reasonable expectation for a goalie of his age and we all know he isn't Carter Hart or Carey Price as very few are.

 

[Samus44]

Its a bit early to pay the piper but we may be in a bit of a bind.

Benson, Lavoie and their choice of Skinner or Konovalov

for

Adin Hill

That's insane. Adin Hill would be nice but let's not get crazy, he's no sure thing himself.

 

[Del Preston]

Some stats on Grosenick. Seems like he will do just fine as goalie number 3.

45-save shutout in his NHL debut with the Sharks in 2014.



He also fought in an AHL game last season:

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

45-save shutout in his NHL debut with the Sharks in 2014.

Im shocked it wasn’t against the Oilers.

 

[JarvisFunk]

I just don't understand why we seemingly never kicked tires on Thomas Griess. And he goes to the f***ing Red Wings? Griess/Koskinen would have been a pretty great tandem

 

[FlameChampion]

I just don't understand why we seemingly never kicked tires on Thomas Griess. And he goes to the f***ing Red Wings? Griess/Koskinen would have been a pretty great tandem

Pretty sure we did but he wanted too much money. I know we all complain about Smith, I would of preferred someone else but compared to the players, the majority of the goalies got paid considerably well. I mean Greiss got paid 3.6 mil a year.

 

[BudBundy]

45-save shutout in his NHL debut with the Sharks in 2014.



He also fought in an AHL game last season:

lol. Awesome! Who doesn’t love a goalie fight?

 

[dssource]

Chiasson or Khaira. Maybe waive both when Neal returns and recall Nygard for some speed on the wing.

Khaira already cleared and doesn't need to clear again. He can just be moved to the taxi squad now when necessary.

 

[McTrashBoat]

lol. Awesome! Who doesn’t love a goalie fight?

Had to get a proper Smith replacement

 

[Oilhawks]

Khaira already cleared and doesn't need to clear again. He can just be moved to the taxi squad now when necessary.

Do you know how long he is able to be moved up and down without waivers now? Can't seem to find that info

 

[ujju2]

1. Pheonix Copley
2. Zachary Fucale

I think Chaiss could get either one with a pick attached.

The Caps have waaay too many goalies.

I can't see them moving Fucale. Copley might be more available.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

I think this is a better move than shoving Skinner into games and watching him sink.

We can't afford to waste games in shortened season

 

[Jumptheshark]

1. Pheonix Copley
2. Zachary Fucale

I think Chaiss could get either one with a pick attached.

The Caps have waaay too many goalies.

Fucale does not have the head for the nhl

 

[Evgeny Oliker]

Is it possible there is another goalie move coming?

to me it would make sense to sign someone like Howard for backup, have Grosenick go to Taxi Squad, and this allow Skinner and Rodrigues to play games outside of nhl...

 

[dssource]

Do you know how long he is able to be moved up and down without waivers now? Can't seem to find that info

I thought it was 30 days. Someone who knows for certain, please correct me if I'm wrong.