Proposal: Rumors and Proposals Thread: Kassian's Days Numbered?

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Even if Samorukov is a solid trending prospect, which he isn't, his absolute upside isn't something that's a glaring need for the Oilers moving forward. If he does break in to the NHL, it's as a bottom pairing defenseman, which can be found on the FA market rather easily.

I've mentioned Zacha before and think he fits the mold of the player we should be targeting. You give up Samorukov and Maksimov in that deal if it's available. But odds are neither prospect moves the dial for them.
 

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A huge dickish move is Maroon likely not being top of his game after they signed him up for millions. Like plenty of players they get complacent. Seen a ton of that on the Oilers. Especially last year.
My guess not a fact.

Considering the sweetheart deal Maroon signed for St.Louis should have no complaints
 
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Even if Samorukov is a solid trending prospect, which he isn't, his absolute upside isn't something that's a glaring need for the Oilers moving forward. If he does break in to the NHL, it's as a bottom pairing defenseman, which can be found on the FA market rather easily.

I've mentioned Zacha before and think he fits the mold of the player we should be targeting. You give up Samorukov and Maksimov in that deal if it's available. But odds are neither prospect moves the dial for them.
The Oilers need more players like Maksimov. Samorukov also seems poised to be an NHLer
 

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Even if Samorukov is a solid trending prospect, which he isn't, his absolute upside isn't something that's a glaring need for the Oilers moving forward. If he does break in to the NHL, it's as a bottom pairing defenseman, which can be found on the FA market rather easily.

I've mentioned Zacha before and think he fits the mold of the player we should be targeting. You give up Samorukov and Maksimov in that deal if it's available. But odds are neither prospect moves the dial for them.

How many LHD prospects do we have now? Jones and Samorukov? I’m sure we have more but when those are the two best it worries me. We have forwards trending much better then Maksimov at the moment.
 

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The Oilers need more players like Maksimov. Samorukov also seems poised to be an NHLer

Yep a lot of poise in his game. I don’t see a lot of offensive upside but could see him being a good shutdown dman. A #4/5 guy isn’t out of the question. I don’t mind Zacha but he’s had IQ issues since junior. Better wingers on the market IMO
 

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I see nothing from Samorukov that screams NHLer. I could see him having a good KHL career though

I’d wait until the WJC before writing him off. See no reason to trade him right now considering our depth chart.
 

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Kapanen was a guy we should have overpaid for. Leafs didnt want to move him but his breakout was evident from the games I saw him play. Was just being marinated in the AHL.

Any players who fit the criteria of youmg, fast, skilled but arent playing due to lack of depth? Another guy is Kevin Fiala 2 seasons ago.

Maybe Vrana or Burkovsky? The latter has just 2 points in 15 games... could be a great buy-low target

Sprong could be that guy but it's almost impossible to know the value of a highly touted prospect that's too good for the AHL but hasn't really gotten a shot in the NHL. I'd offer a 2nd or even a prospect like Benson for him since Pittsburgh has a need on LW. I know some would hate a deal like that but the Oilers really need a pure goal scorer in the system, badly.
 

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My thoughts on a deal with TO.

To Edm: Nylander+Dermott

To Tor: Nurse+Kassian+Puljujarvi

And how are the Oilers paying Nylander? A lot of you guys with these Nylander and Stone proposals seem to forget that the Oilers have no cap space for the foreseeable future and sorry, nobody is taking the Lucic or Sekera contracts for free.

There is no big splash trade to be had. The Oilers are going to have to develop internally and stick with cheap options (Rattie, Chiasson, Gravel and Garrison types) as stopgaps until the youngsters are ready.
 
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Kapanen was a guy we should have overpaid for. Leafs didnt want to move him but his breakout was evident from the games I saw him play. Was just being marinated in the AHL.

Any players who fit the criteria of youmg, fast, skilled but arent playing due to lack of depth? Another guy is Kevin Fiala 2 seasons ago.

Maybe Vrana or Burkovsky? The latter has just 2 points in 15 games... could be a great buy-low target
Sprong/Burakovsky/Zacha/Zykov all come to mind immediately

Someone like Evgeny Svechnikov could be another
 
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And how are the Oilers paying Nylander? A lot of you guys with these Nylander and Stone proposals seem to forget that the Oilers have no cap space for the foreseeable future and sorry, nobody is taking the Lucic or Sekera contracts for free.

There is no big splash trade to be had. The Oilers are going to have to develop internally and stick with cheap options (Rattie, Chiasson, Gravel and Garrison types) as stopgaps until the youngsters are ready.
If he finds a way to move Sekera or Lucic we could possibly.
 

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Sprong could be that guy but it's almost impossible to know the value of a highly touted prospect that's too good for the AHL but hasn't really gotten a shot in the NHL. I'd offer a 2nd or even a prospect like Benson for him since Pittsburgh has a need on LW. I know some would hate a deal like that but the Oilers really need a pure goal scorer in the system, badly.

Only sucky thing about Spring is he's NHL or bust no waiver eligibility.
For that reason I don't offer a 2nd or Benson.

I'd offer a 3rd + one of out bottom 6 guys. A 3rd + Kassian for example
 

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Only sucky thing about Spring is he's NHL or bust no waiver eligibility.
For that reason I don't offer a 2nd or Benson.

I'd offer a 3rd + one of out bottom 6 guys. A 3rd + Kassian for example

Err, that is a problem and should bring down his value a bit one would think. I know it's not a good idea to gift young players roster spots but I'd stick him on Drai's wing for a long while and see if it clicks, kid is a pure goal scorer. If it doesn't work out, oh well, but he'd the exact buy low option that Chia should be looking for.
 
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Yup you could be right for sure, but man do we need one of these guys to pan out in a top 6 role.
The guy I think will do that (outside of Yamo/Pulju) is Maximov. Sure it'll take him 2-3 more years but he has a laser of a wrister and a bomb of a slapper. Good smarts and wheels. He has legit 30-40 goal potential in him if he gets a healthy dose of Mcjesus time imo.
 
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Err, that is a problem and should bring down his value a bit one would think. I know it's not a good idea to gift young players roster spots but I'd stick him on Drai's wing for a long while and see if it clicks, kid is a pure goal scorer. If it doesn't work out, oh well, but he'd the exact buy low option that Chia should be looking for.

With Pulju and Yammo down now would be the time to bring in a player like him. I`d be fine with a 3rd+ for him and stapling him to either the Draisaitl or McDavid line.
 
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Maroon for Kassian
Free up RNH to be 3C
Roll 3 offensive lines

Maroon -McD-Rattie
Reider-Drai-Chaisson
Lucic-RNH-Caggiula
Strome-Brodz-Khaira
 

belair

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How many LHD prospects do we have now? Jones and Samorukov? I’m sure we have more but when those are the two best it worries me. We have forwards trending much better then Maksimov at the moment.
We currently have two top four LHD under the age of 25. The depth isn't absolutely necessary today. I'm not sure why it'd even be a worry. Our current need for young NHL ready F depth is much higher than the need for longshot LHD prospect depth.
 

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Time to revisit voyonov? Also I remember how people were dead set against bringing Hoffman in. He looks like he's doing pretty good in Florida. 7 goals and 14 pts right now. Woulda looked ok next to draistaitl.
 
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