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The fact that you think Madden is close to Bouchard as a prospect is crazySo should we have offered up Bouchard and a 2nd for Toffoli? Would you be ok with that?
The fact that you think Madden is close to Bouchard as a prospect is crazySo should we have offered up Bouchard and a 2nd for Toffoli? Would you be ok with that?
I think you mean 2015Yes. The 2020 draft is supposed to be the deepest draft since 2003
The fact that you think Madden is close to Bouchard as a prospect is crazy
A comparable package would be like Lavoie + Chiasson + 2nd. Personally I wouldn’t pay that for Toffoli, no.Perhaps it's the wrong choice, but I couldn't think of another prospect at the time.
But I get it, Holland should be held accountable for not getting Toffoli.
So should we have offered up Bouchard and a 2nd for Toffoli? Would you be ok with that?
Really surprised people willing to stand pat watching division opponents load up on depth, while we have... Archibald, Neal, Kassian as options for McDavid's wing.
These prospects being given up, while good, aren't exactly untouchable level. Every season that goes by without giving McDavid+Draisaitl a legitimate shot at competing in the playoffs is one year less. Let alone in a year like this where the pacific is looking so weak. We need deeeppptthhhhhhhhhhhh. We need that top line winger so guys like Archibald and Kassian can perform their roles as excellent bottom 6 forwards instead of being an anchor with McDavid. Hence, getting a top line winger will solve our depth problems.
Again as I've said before I've talked to some NHL scouts who feel it's top heavy, but not anything special outside of the top 10.
I think the willingness to move first rounders with top 10 protection is an indication of that.
Tyler Toffoli would be our best winger by a country mile...Chiasson plus a couple low end magic beans for a guy who is going to add 15+ goals over Chiasson is more than worth it.A comparable package would be like Lavoie + Chiasson + 2nd. Personally I wouldn’t pay that for Toffoli, no.
Really surprised people willing to stand pat watching division opponents load up on depth, while we have... Archibald, Neal, Kassian as options for McDavid's wing.
These prospects being given up, while good, aren't exactly untouchable level. Every season that goes by without giving McDavid+Draisaitl a legitimate shot at competing in the playoffs is one year less. Let alone in a year like this where the pacific is looking so weak. We need deeeppptthhhhhhhhhhhh. We need that top line winger so guys like Archibald and Kassian can perform their roles as excellent bottom 6 forwards instead of being an anchor with McDavid. Hence, getting a top line winger will solve our depth problems.
Lavoie is a low end magic bean? Are you f***ing stoned out of your tree?Tyler Toffoli would be our best winger by a country mile...Chiasson plus a couple low end magic beans for a guy who is going to add 15+ goals over Chiasson is more than worth it.
Tyler Toffoli would be our best winger by a country mile...Chiasson plus a couple low end magic beans for a guy who is going to add 15+ goals over Chiasson is more than worth it.
Tyler Toffoli would be our best winger by a country mile...Chiasson plus a couple low end magic beans for a guy who is going to add 15+ goals over Chiasson is more than worth it.
Tyler Toffoli would be our best winger by a country mile...Chiasson plus a couple low end magic beans for a guy who is going to add 15+ goals over Chiasson is more than worth it.
It's also different in that Tampa is loading up, while the pro-trade people are just asking that we fill a major hole in the lineup. For the Bolts it's a luxury. For us it is a need.TB is gunning for the cup.. we are gunning for a playoffs spot.
Not the same situation.
Perhaps it's the wrong choice, but I couldn't think of another prospect at the time.
But I get it, Holland should be held accountable for not getting Toffoli.
They aren't low end magic beans, and your first sentence is flat out wrong.
Yamamoto is already better, RNH is better, and it's pretty even with Kassian.
Yes? He is a horrific skater who got 4th line minutes at the WJC this year. He's a good player, good scorer, but it's unlikely he even makes the NHL let alone becomes close to the player Toffoli is now.Lavoie is a low end magic bean? Are you ****ing stoned out of your tree?
It's also different in that Tampa is loading up, while the pro-trade people are just asking that we fill a major hole in the lineup. For the Bolts it's a luxury. For us it is a need.
What is your plan for the McDavid line? You just want Archibald/Kassian/Neal? I don't think now is the time of year to think a prospect can step in line Yama did.
To me it is tragic to waste a year of McDavid while just one piece would fix it. By extension, we are also wasting this amazing Nuge-Drai-Yamamoto line as well because they are red hot but don't have any back up.
Yes? He is a horrific skater who got 4th line minutes at the WJC this year. He's a good player, good scorer, but it's unlikely he even makes the NHL let alone becomes close to the player Toffoli is now.
Yes? He is a horrific skater who got 4th line minutes at the WJC this year. He's a good player, good scorer, but it's unlikely he even makes the NHL let alone becomes close to the player Toffoli is now.
Yes? He is a horrific skater who got 4th line minutes at the WJC this year. He's a good player, good scorer, but it's unlikely he even makes the NHL let alone becomes close to the player Toffoli is now.
So you say fire Holland because he wouldn’t overpay to get Toffoli?
Tyler Toffoli would be our best winger by a country mile...Chiasson plus a couple low end magic beans for a guy who is going to add 15+ goals over Chiasson is more than worth it.
Yes they are. A 2nd round pick and Lavoie are more than likely never going to come close to the production Toffoli provides, if they even make the NHL in the first place in any capacity. RNH isn't a winger, but I agree that Yamamoto and him are similar in production to Toffoli.They aren't low end magic beans, and your first sentence is flat out wrong.
Yamamoto is already better, RNH is better, and it's pretty even with Kassian.
So? He's also a UFA and a player who plays a position that doesn't address a current roster need. How would that trade be beneficial to us assuming we're in the same boat as the Vancouver Canucks?Tyler Toffoli would be our best winger by a country mile...Chiasson plus a couple low end magic beans for a guy who is going to add 15+ goals over Chiasson is more than worth it.