Prospect Info: Round 4, Pick 104: Mikhail Vorobyov, C, Tolpar Ufa (MHL --> KHL)

[Magua]

2018-2019
Lindblom Giroux Voracek
Rubtsov Voroybov Konecny
Weiss Couturier Schenn

Not a bad top 9.

I think that might be a stretch to start the season with Rubtsov on the team 18 months from now if he does just go back to the Q next year. Vorobyov feels like a decent bet.

And if Weise is still a top 9 player on that line in 2018-2019, something went wrong. Guy shouldn't be a top 9 player or on that line next year. Also: Weal is hopefully still around doing good things; Simmonds is still under contract that year, so we shall see.

 

[Psuhockey]

I think that might be a stretch to start the season with Rubtsov on the team 18 months from now if he does just go back to the Q next year. Vorobyov feels like a decent bet.

And if Weise is still a top 9 player on that line in 2018-2019, something went wrong. Guy shouldn't be a top 9 player or on that line next year. Also: Weal is hopefully still around doing good things; Simmonds is still under contract that year, so we shall see.

Future top 6 NHL forwards typically don't need AHL time. Maybe 1/2 season at most. A full injury free year in the Q plus world juniors plus possibly an AHL playoff run should be enough for Rubtsov. Also out of the prospects, who would be his competition to beat out in 2018.

Weiss could be replaced by then. Just putting him there since that line has shown some chemistry.

Simmonds should be traded next year. I am hoping Hextall knows that. A big extension for a 31 year old power forward is bad news and waiting until the trade deadline of 2018-2019 would lower his return.

All this is assuming that Hextall is just going to build from within and not go out an acquire high end talent.

 

[Appleyard]

http://sport.business-gazeta.ru/news/187808?utm_source=bogazeta-sport-block

Vorobyov responded to a question today asking if he was going to America by saying that he will be attending training camp 'in summer'.

Seemingly a 'teasing' response - but confirming he is attending development camp is cool

 

[FLYguy3911]

Not common for Russians but Fedotov attended last year.

 

[Curufinwe]

http://sport.business-gazeta.ru/news/187808?utm_source=bogazeta-sport-block

Vorobyov responded to a question today asking if he was going to America by saying that he will be attending training camp 'in summer'.

Seemingly a 'teasing' response - but confirming he is attending development camp is cool

He seems to be "edging" closer to singing with the Flyers.

 

[Chuck Downie]

He seems to be "edging" closer to singing with the Flyers.

Lots of smoke for sure. April 13 his team returns from vacation, and I assume we`ll see more smoke if he is indeed signing an ELC.

I wonder where this month long ``vacation`` was??

 

[Appleyard]

Lots of smoke for sure. April 13 his team returns from vacation, and I assume we`ll see more smoke if he is indeed signing an ELC.

I wonder where this month long ``vacation`` was??

For Vorobyov it was in South Korea and Latvia training playing for the Russian B international team!

 

[Chuck Downie]

For Vorobyov it was in South Korea and Latvia training playing for the Russian B international team!

Ha! Some vacation. I hear Riga is nice this time of year.

 

[Appleyard]

I did an overview of all the rumours, releases and interviews on Vorobyov over the last few months - basically summing up the situation and with some overview of his play for Russia too.

http://sonsofpenn.com/mikhail-vorobyov-is-inching-closer-to-coming-to-north-america/

Most of the info is in the thread already, but here it is in one nice semi-concise place!

 

[pit]

He seems to be "edging" closer to singing with the Flyers.

Duet with Lauren Hart?

 

[Appleyard]

https://www.championat.com/hockey/a...lavate-vesterlunde-kaprizove-i-zaharkine.html

Salavat GM spoke about Vorobyov today. Said they have offered him a contract and seeming trying to 'dissuade' him from leaving.

Article seemingly states arguments have arisen over it - I think he infers he has players best interests at heart - but player sees him as GM/vested interest.



That seems the gist anyway - would help if I could understand Russian haha!

 

[CSKA1974]

https://www.championat.com/hockey/a...lavate-vesterlunde-kaprizove-i-zaharkine.html

Salavat GM spoke about Vorobyov today. Said they have offered him a contract and seeming trying to 'dissuade' him from leaving.

Article seemingly states arguments have arisen over it - I think he infers he has players best interests at heart - but player sees him as GM/vested interest.



That seems the gist anyway - would help if I could understand Russian haha!

Not much to add from a russian speaker perspective. GM stated that Vorobyov had just solidified his place on the roster, and GM had advised him to play 1-2 more years in the KHL in order to become a clear #1 center. The GM stated that current player's statistics do not support that.

 

[Tripod]

Yeah for me, if he stayed in the KHL, I am fine with that. The 1-2 years gives us time to see what Vech and Laughton can do and if either can be a #3C.

But he will do what he thinks is best.

 

[Rebels57]

I think 1 more year in KHL could be beneficial for Vorobyov. Especially since Gordon will underuse him anyway.

 

[Appleyard]

I think 1 more year in KHL could be beneficial for Vorobyov. Especially since Gordon will underuse him anyway.

Problem is I believe they have only offered him a 2 or 3 year deal.

 

[Rebels57]

Problem is I believe they have only offered him a 2 or 3 year deal.

That's no good. I wouldn't sign more than 1 year if I were Vorobyov. If they won't accomodate him, welcome to Lehigh Valley!

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

 

[Magua]

But does he have time to ditch Team Russia and get to the Phantoms press box by tomorrow's game?!

 

[tictactoe]

If it is between playing in AHL and Salavat Ulayev. Let it be Salavat. Top team, good coach, good all around, always in playoffs.

 

[Striiker]

Have any of the actual Flyers beat reporters even mentioned this yet?

Do they even know who he is?

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Good news. Can't wait to see him up close.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Have any of the actual Flyers beat reporters even mentioned this yet?

Do they even know who he is?

The guy is a national reporter in Canada. I'm guessing his sources are far greater than those guys who just only get whatever info they do out of people within the organization which isn't easy.

This guy probably has sources within the league office & with sports agencies. I'd imagine that's how most of these national guys get any information that they come by on the Flyers.

 

[sa cyred]

Vorobyov & soon Lindblom coming over.... yessssss.

Still think that 4th line center spot is open, but still have guys like Laughton/Vecc that will be fighting for it too.

Problem is Gordon in the AHL. Probably will sit him for half the season.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Gordon's an idiot but he'd probably play a player like Vorobyov a lot because he's pretty advanced away from the puck. Now whether he gets much or any PP time at all is anybody's guess.

 

[Hiesenberg]

The guy is a national reporter in Canada. I'm guessing his sources are far greater than those guys who just only get whatever info they do out of people within the organization which isn't easy.

This guy probably has sources within the league office & with sports agencies. I'd imagine that's how most of these national guys get any information that they come by on the Flyers.

Renaud is tapped in for real. During the last lockout, he was one of the guys that kicked out some info that not many guys had.

The beats are spoon fed information by the team that the team wants out.