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Just got an assist vs Sweden in Summer Showcase.
Prospect Info: Round 2, 46th Overall - Samu Tuomaala (RW) - Karpat Jr. -- 5'10", 179 pounds
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Samu, I don't want to put too much on your shoulders, but you're it for this class, buddy. You're our only hope. No pressure.
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Though none seem allergic to contact.
This is a TB thing, smaller forwards, bigger D-men.
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I like it. He was ranked in the late 20’s early 30’s by a few different sources. Looks like a great shooter. Nice to add a Finn too. 
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Raty had 4 goals.
I just sent Lorne a PM complaining about how annoying you are using advanced stats like this all the time.
MMANumminen
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I was very high on this kid but when getting to higher levels, his weaknesses started to show. He is not involved enough, plays too much on the perimeter. He has always leaned to his elite shot. It is not enough in Liiga, yet the NHL. Nice pick anyway, high risk high reward
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He’s played 5 Liiga games……not sure what there is to glean from that.
That said, he has a propensity for low % shots in my watches. I would call his playmaking a bit lacking. I never thought he was perimeter or uninvolved mentally — I do think his decision making could stand to improve to make a more consistent impact on his shifts. I think he has solid feel off-puck for getting into spots. But a few more smart, simple passes would go a long way to getting the puck into scoring areas.
I think the kid was ranked to go in the first round in many mock drafts.
It almost feels like it could be a steal of a pick if he develops properly over in Finland.
Another good find by CF and the scouting staff.
It almost feels like it could be a steal of a pick if he develops properly over in Finland.
Another good find by CF and the scouting staff.
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I was pretty shocked to see as many of you disappointed in this pick, he’s got some serious skills. Very much so a player you take a chance on in the second round.
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Shocked? Well... his teammate, Koivunen, outscored him in his first season in the league and was selected a bit after. Also, Stankoven was a big name to pass on.
The GM's been pissing away picks, so the pressure's on to hit on those kept. Not much optimism in this year's class aside from maybe this pick.
Question....has there ever been a 2nd round pick by any team, in any year that was NOT supposed to go in the 1st!?
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Nope not today.
4th round guys and later are up against big odds to make a NHL roster. If you hit on a guy that late then it is just a bonus. This wasn’t supposed to be a deep draft anyway was it?
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He's a second round pick. But yeah, it's hard to find NHL talent in the draft after the first. Just seems like the Flyers neither put in the work nor gave themselves enough opportunities to find good prospects.
I'd have taken Stankoven, Raty, Chibrakov, Koivunen before Tuomaala but would have been pleased to get Tuomaala at 46 if I didn't know those other guys were still on the board (I didn't expect them to be other than possibly Koivunen). I wouldn't have been disappointed with Stankoven or Raty at 13. Watching the first half of yesterday's Sweden game, Tuomaala looked like a steal. The 2nd half of that game, not so much. Was disappointing today. He stands around a lot and doesn't do much without the puck on his stick. Definitely has skill when he has the puck but will need a lot of work on his game. Koivunen was really impressive in the u18s but doesn't seem the same here (only two games). First time seeing Raty play full games and he looks pretty good so far. Oliver Kapanen has been good as well, nothing too exciting but looks like a solid pick who plays all situations, hard at both ends and also has some skill.
Emil Andrae looked good yesterday against Finland. He and Tuomalla almost got into it at the end of the game when Finland scored an empty netter. Subtle action by Raty that I liked was that after scoring his 4th goal via empty net, he immediately went to help Tuomaala when he saw them shoving.
Lysell didn't have a great game but you could see some flashes of an explosive player. Rosen was solid, scored and was noticeable when on the ice, definitely someone Finland had to keep their eyes on. I'm surprised he was ranked lower by many outlets. I don't think he was a reach like some say. He was really good at the u18s and could have put up some more points there if it wasn't for some bad luck. I'd have a tough time choosing between him and Lysell, Rosen was probably more impressive in my viewings but Lysell could be a star.
Not pretending to know more than anyone just noting what I had seen.
Emil Andrae looked good yesterday against Finland. He and Tuomalla almost got into it at the end of the game when Finland scored an empty netter. Subtle action by Raty that I liked was that after scoring his 4th goal via empty net, he immediately went to help Tuomaala when he saw them shoving.
Lysell didn't have a great game but you could see some flashes of an explosive player. Rosen was solid, scored and was noticeable when on the ice, definitely someone Finland had to keep their eyes on. I'm surprised he was ranked lower by many outlets. I don't think he was a reach like some say. He was really good at the u18s and could have put up some more points there if it wasn't for some bad luck. I'd have a tough time choosing between him and Lysell, Rosen was probably more impressive in my viewings but Lysell could be a star.
Not pretending to know more than anyone just noting what I had seen.
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Not that it's totally relevant, but I still remember when Elias Pettersson, as an early birthday, in the WJSS had 0 points in 5 games. 18 Swedish players scored more points than him. You can imagine the reactions.
Frederick Karlstrom led the team with 6 points in 5 games; followed by Oskar Steen and Lias Andersson with 4 points.
Frederick Karlstrom led the team with 6 points in 5 games; followed by Oskar Steen and Lias Andersson with 4 points.
daynus
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It just seems like Samu, like any prospect has areas where he needs development. He’s a shoot first guy. Passing is
An area that needs improvement. Watching some of those Montreal forwards, pass, get puck back, shoot, score, on their playoff run. I’m sure Samu will figure things out. Sit him down, make him watch Voracek videos.
An area that needs improvement. Watching some of those Montreal forwards, pass, get puck back, shoot, score, on their playoff run. I’m sure Samu will figure things out. Sit him down, make him watch Voracek videos.
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Because it looked like he sucked at the sport of hockey this season, despite athleticism and motor. Absolutely one of my worst watches. Fumbly with the puck, little skill shown, hot potato passes, zero poise. Looked like the antithesis of an NHLer. I wouldn’t change my mind over a summer game.
Raty was by no accounts a mid-1st. His stock dropped like a rock. The Islanders love drafting tools/no toolbox, so it’s a perfect fit.
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