truthbluth
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If he were a righty I’d want him to take Risto’s spot (after trade) on the PP, and to play the 3rd pair with McCabe.
Roster Speculation Pt. IX
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At the right price for Gardiner and we trade away Scandella.
Dahlin - Montour
Gardiner - Risto
Pilut - Nelson/Bogo
McCabe
Don't think we trade Risto given the Bogo hip surgery. RHD are too hard to replace.
Husko
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Looking at Gardiner's usage in Toronto, it seems he played more of a defensive role, at least compared to other players on the team. Are his defensive chops good enough that him and some other acquired defensive dman could play the shutdown pairing?
Dahlin-Montour
Pilut-Risto
Gardiner-X
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Dahlin-Montour
Pilut-Risto
Gardiner-X
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Let's put it this way. Here in Toronto they referred to Gardiner as "The Gardiner Expressway" (the highway in Downtown Toronto) because he was so easy to pass by. He had another Game 7 giveaway last night to cost them a goal.
Fezzy126
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I don't recall the turnover and this point isn't specifically about Gardner, but there's probably about 5 defensemen in the league that are both 1) deployed in defensive heavy roles, AND 2) that the majority of fans are really happy with their play.
When you have to play a lot of minutes against elite forwards, you're not going to look good. The highest tier of forwards in the game are just too damn good at causing turnovers and making defensemen look bad. That's why I think coaches that create those extreme roles are stupid.
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Gardiner isn't at the top of my hypothetical shopping list, but at the right price I'd do it without hesitation.
I would have loved to see this last season especially when the season began to go south, but you'd have to have Risto embrace it. Now, the ship has sailed, I'm all aboard the trade Risto bandwagon.
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If Skinner walks I hope there is a contingency plan. Someone like Kessel. I doubt he would come here but if he would waive his NTC and the cost isn't much at all then he would be a good target. Whatever ends up happening with Skinner, we must use the ~8 mil earmarked for him on another 1st line forward. I am sure there will be a few big $ contracts of top line players that could be available this summer.
This should be an exciting summer. Botts knows its either playoffs or the unemployment line. I expect a lot of turnover on the roster. I only want to see about half the 23 man roster to be here next year.
Eichel, Skinner, Reinhart, Mitts, Sheary, ERod, Nylander, Olofsson,Dahlin,Risto,Montour,Pilut,Ullmark/Hutton.
This should be an exciting summer. Botts knows its either playoffs or the unemployment line. I expect a lot of turnover on the roster. I only want to see about half the 23 man roster to be here next year.
Eichel, Skinner, Reinhart, Mitts, Sheary, ERod, Nylander, Olofsson,Dahlin,Risto,Montour,Pilut,Ullmark/Hutton.
I still think Nylander is gone this offseason. I can't imagine he or the Nylander Camp is okay with another season in Rochester, especially with the shit being spewed on social media about his injury right now. I believe he's gone at or before the draft.
BuzzKillington90
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What’s being said about his injury? I’m on full no twitter mode until after I see Avengers this weekend lol
Der Jaeger
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Agree with this. I think he's moved, as he's not a Botterill pick, plays a bit too soft, and had a decent uptick in performance at the end of the season. I hope he's moved for a defender. Someone like Brodin.
The Amerks fans who never particularly liked him in the first place are seizing on his inability to play, calling him soft, suggesting he doesn't want to play or isn't really badly injured, using this as a reason to want him gone, etc. I can't imagine he and his camp aren't aware of it. I think there may be a mutual wish to go separate ways after this season. It'll be interesting to see if Botts moves him in a prospect-for-prospect swap (Pulju? Juolevi?), or packages him with other players/picks.
He's going to be traded because of AHL twitter trolls? That's low rent.
Gabrielor
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That is what Gardiner is. A good puck moving dman that can put up 50 points. But the posters thinking he can be a shutdown defensive dman or barking up the wrong tree.
Outside the UFA price tag on him, his back injury is very concerning.
Der Jaeger
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So, assume Gronborg is the next HC. Would Karlsson come?
Ownership? Check (remember, he was used to dealing with Melnyk)
Only Swedish HC in the league? Check
Young, generational Swedish talent? Check
Roster and organization full of Swedes? Check
I think Karlsson will age well. His mind will never go. I can see him as a viable NHL defenseman until he's 40. Just have to make sure we don't break the bank for him.
Ownership? Check (remember, he was used to dealing with Melnyk)
Only Swedish HC in the league? Check
Young, generational Swedish talent? Check
Roster and organization full of Swedes? Check
I think Karlsson will age well. His mind will never go. I can see him as a viable NHL defenseman until he's 40. Just have to make sure we don't break the bank for him.
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I haven't seen the guy skate like he wasn't severely injured in like 3 years, it'd be scary to give him a big contract, even though he's one of my favorites.
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Yeah, that's what has me thinking he won't age gracefully. We've seen him looking rough trying to skate through injuries the last few years. When he loses a step to age, it's not gonna be pretty.
It's already starting to go. The heel injury and now this leg injury have robbed him of mobility. He looked terrible in much of that Vegas series.
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