Speculation: Roster Speculation Part VII

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  1. Aladyyn

    Aladyyn play Reinhart at C you cowards

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    Stone would be the best player on this team. He is unquestionably elite.
     
  2. Snippit

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    Jack > Sam
    Stone => Tavares

    It’s not even a “hipster” opinion. Stone is very well regarded on HF and is pretty well accepted as a top 10 wing in the game.
     
  3. itwasaforwardpass

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    Code for "he doesn't skate fast".

    He likely won't get 11 mil because he's not a center but he is very much elite.
     
  4. TehDoak

    TehDoak He sure has a

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    I think we need to look at short term and long term needs.

    Short Term needs:

    Scoring Depth (focused in the middle 6)
    Center Depth (two way center, scoring center)
    Top Pairing RHD (#2 to play with Dahlin)

    Long Term needs

    Top Pairing RHD (#2 to play with Dahlin)

    Our long term center depth (Mittelstadt, Asplund) is ok. Not certainly at the crisis levels at the NHL level.

    Our middle winger depth is OK (Nylander, Oloffson, Smith, Rodrigues, Thompson, Pekar)

    Our strength right now is our defensive depth (specially on LHD side)

    Dahlin, McCabe, Pilut, Guhle, Samuelsson, Beaulieau


    My guess is we'll try to fill the scoring depth via UFA signings and fix the long term RHD by moving a LHD + draft pick .
     
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    Rowley Birkin Registered User

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    Yet Kane got nearly 11m a number of years ago. Kucherov would have got 11m on the open market (and been worth it) .Marner should get 11m too.

    Stone should not be in the same conversation as these players.
     
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    :help:
     
  8. Fezzy126

    Fezzy126 Rebuilding...

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    I've been one of the few voices that has preached patience with both Phil & Sobotka, but quotes like this one are a hard pill to swallow...
     
  9. sabremike

    sabremike #1 OA Pick in the 2019 Bandwagon Draft (CBJ)

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    When Phil passes away many years from now his final arrangements are going to be cheap because they will give him an enema and he'll fit in a shoebox.
     
  10. littletonhockeycoach

    littletonhockeycoach NOT the Hanson Bros..... Sponsor

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    "And that's why I play him in the OT.... it's all about reliability...." (Sorry to put words in Phil's mouth. I know he didn't actually SAY that. But its what he meant.)

    The facts are that Phil gives Sobatka way too many minutes. Analytics be damned, eh Phil?
     
  11. Reddawg

    Reddawg We're all mad here

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    I guess the fantasy about waiving him to Rochester is just going to remain a fantasy. Phil sure does pick and hold his favorites.
     
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    If he was used only as a PK / face off specialist it wouldn't be a problem. He might even be effective.
     
  13. GellMann

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    Who said his value was 3 first round picks? I didn't. Imagine if Sam Reinhart played at this 70 point pace for like three years, and then Montreal fans came in here and were like "yeah 16 overall and Nikita Scherbak should do it"

    Nikita is their version of that disappointing prospect they think people care about because of the name, but actually nobody would give anything of value for.

    Huberdeau isn't a rental. He has a lot more value than that, and if we were to acquire him, it would be for a package that would make us sting.
     
  14. Jim Bob

    Jim Bob Let's go, Buffalo!

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    That ends the dreams of a lot of fans around the league.
     
  15. SundherDome

    SundherDome You will be missed Robin Lehner

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    I'm not advocating for it but I could see Botts moving him out to a contender for something nice.
     
  16. TehDoak

    TehDoak He sure has a

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    Off the top of my head:

    Kucherov
    Ovechkin
    Kane
    Tarasenko
    Laine
    Marner
    Panarin
    Gaudreau
    Rantanen
    Pastranak
    Marchand
    Wheeler
    Kessel
    Landeskog

    I mean, I like Stone a lot, he's a 1st line winger.

    But he's not a top ten winger. And he doesn't have NEAR the resume that Tavares has. He'll get more than Skinner, less than Panarin.
     
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    Or it heightens them based on the person reporting this
     
  18. itwasaforwardpass

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    Why isn't Tage on PP2?

    His play 5v5 has been bad but the power play is one thing he's been successful at on every level.

    If he's going to be forced into the lineup you'd think his main strength would be utilized. Also it's not like the powerplay couldn't use the help or at least a different look.
     
  19. Beerz

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    I remember the days when coaches coached and sent a player out to win a key faceoff and when they did or when team got possession ..said player immediately got off the ice and was replaced by someone competent
     
  20. sabremike

    sabremike #1 OA Pick in the 2019 Bandwagon Draft (CBJ)

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    I 100% agree!!!!! WE ALL NEED MORE TAGE!!!!!!!!!!
     
  21. TehDoak

    TehDoak He sure has a

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    88 NHL games, 10G, 10A. That's why. He hasn't produced at the NHL level significantly yet. Force feeding him TOI won't fix his issues.

    TT seems to be a "all the tools no toolbox" kind of player at this point.

    For every corner he picks for a highlight real goal, I can find 10 unforced turnovers or bad decisions that have killed forechecks or led directly to a chance against.

    He was gifted a spot out of camp....and I'm still not sure why.
     
  22. Beerz

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    Sobotka can be relied upon for killing any offensive pressure and failing to check his man.
     
  23. Beerz

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    Because Botterill filled our team with cap dumps and we couldn't afford to address those needs
     
  24. itwasaforwardpass

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    I'm not advocating a lot more ice time for Tage, or even that he should be in the lineup at all (sorry sabremike). I'm saying if he's going to be in the lineup use his one strength in an area of weakness on the team.
     
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    sabremike #1 OA Pick in the 2019 Bandwagon Draft (CBJ)

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    YOU TAKE THAT BACK YOU VERY BAD MAN:madfire::madfire::madfire::madfire::madfire: #TeamTage
     
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