Speculation: Roster Building Thread XXXVI: The End (The Apocalypse Is Now)

[YoSoyLalo]

How about we leave it and try to get someone dumb like Benning to give us a 2nd instead

A 2nd?

Dude’s about to be coming off a 60-70 point season. He’s getting a first if we deal him

 

[NYRFANMANI]

1st for Strome at the draft sounds super steep, but we should take that and never look back.

 

[duhmetreE]

I think it's time to give Chytil some PK time. He can become another workhorse ala Zibs. I'm still suspect on his IQ/Awareness.

At worst he could be a great 3C... He still has a nice ceiling

 

[Avery16]

A 2nd?

Dude’s about to be coming off a 60-70 point season. He’s getting a first if we deal him

Did you watch this game? Its clear thats all Panarin. Other teams don't have Panarin. Therefore, they aren't getting this Strome and won't be paying for this Strome.

 

[Kovalev27]

I saw one shift Total today from Panarin Chytil Fast

Chytil blew thru neutral zone dropped to Panarin who set up Fast for What should have been a tap in.

no one can convince me Chytil’s numbers don’t also go thru the roof playing with Panarin.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I saw one shift Total today from Panarin Chytil Fast

Chytil blew thru neutral zone dropped to Panarin who set up Fast for What should have been a tap in.

no one can convince me Chytil’s numbers don’t also go thru the roof playing with Panarin.

Just my opinion but Chytil is too north south for the breadman. I could get behind him instead of Fast but I dont think having 2 north south guys on with breadman would work well.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I'm not as down as everyone on Strome but in all honesty the time to deal him was at the deadline, since they didnt do it I'd say they are planning on keeping him.

 

[Avery16]

I'm not as down as everyone on Strome but in all honesty the time to deal him was at the deadline, since they didnt do it I'd say they are planning on keeping him.

Hes not a UFA and lacks any trade protection. Why wouldn't we trade him at the draft?

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Hes not a UFA and lacks any trade protection. Why wouldn't we trade him at the draft?

I just feel teams would be more interested in him as a rental than trying to get a contract done with him.

 

[MrPodz]

I know the convos strome but we have a couple of issues we should address.
1. Fire ruff, or change the d scheme. I know theyre young, but they just dont rlly tie up the nz and let zone entries happen.
2. What they are doing (sometimes correctly) is protecting the slot. Thats the most important and why we sometimes get outshot so much by bad teams, bc they just throw it on net.
3. What this game today shows isnt necessarily everything. Theyre tired. 3 games in 4 days is a lot, especially for the kids.
4. We need to pray that a prospect is NHL ready for the left side next season. I want staal and smith to never again be in the same game.
5. I believe smith to ottawa, as ive said since the beginning of this year, and after that we will prob buy out staal.
6. Sign some good vets next year(good for bottom six, dont overplay). Use them as leadership, clearly there iz some but not much.
7. Mika is no longer just elite, but entering superstar status
8. Kakko will be better, but right now he is on par with a 4th liner due to lack of expwrience and speed. Thatll come, the skill is clearly there.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Kakko probably should have played in Hartford this year.

 

[Kovalev27]

Just my opinion but Chytil is too north south for the breadman. I could get behind him instead of Fast but I dont think having 2 north south guys on with breadman would work well.

this is like a weird myt thing I keep seeing pop up as if Panarin can only play with a guy like Strome. he crushed it with anisimov with Dubois he looks great with Mika who many here compare Chytil being a younger version. Panarin does a lot of damage at that half wall. Playing with a big center they can gain the line dish it off to him and open up space by going to the middle like he did on that play as well as a guy that can win board battles retrieve pucks and get them back to him is far more valuable. Panarin is an elite player he shouldn’t be tied to Ryan Strome as if that’s the only way he can produce

 

[bl02]

A 2nd?

Dude’s about to be coming off a 60-70 point season. He’s getting a first if we deal him

Be shocked if he got a first. If he gets a first please come back and told me I was wrong.

 

[lemonybergamot]

No, I mean with all our picks I hope we draft only 1 Dman, 2 at most. with our 1st rounders we definitely need to draft forwards.

good 4th line center, shouldn't be too difficult to find. We need to sign Barron.

Yes, I like Trouba's physical play but that contract is insane, and honestly he often makes bad defensive plays, and his offensive production hasn't been great.

Yeah I'm not 100% fan of the contract, but imo without a player like Trouba, our team is even more bland and our defense even more one dimensional. Same reason I'd keep DeAngelo over Fox if I had to choose between them.

I went to Cornell/worked around there a while after I graduated. Barron's on-ice success has been kind of a surprise, but I think he trains with Crosby and MacKinnon in the summer, so for sure he's picked up something from those two elites. I think he needs at least a season in the AHL to marinate though.

 

[NYR Viper]

I could see a team moving a relatively high 2nd + higher end prospect or another 2nd for Strome. Maybe a team like Buffalo or Dallas who also have elite level talent he could play with.

 

[Crease]

Yeah I'm not 100% fan of the contract, but imo without a player like Trouba, our team is even more bland and our defense even more one dimensional. Same reason I'd keep DeAngelo over Fox if I had to choose between them.

I went to Cornell/worked around there a while after I graduated. Barron's on-ice success has been kind of a surprise, but I think he trains with Crosby and MacKinnon in the summer, so for sure he's picked up something from those two elites. I think he needs at least a season in the AHL to marinate though.

Go Big Red.

 

[Crease]

I'm routinely unimpressed with pro scouting so it wouldn't surprise me if at least one team out there sees Strome's numbers and holds him in higher regard than the Rangers do.

I wouldn't want a draft pick though. Maybe the play is to trade Strome for a LHD and promote Chytil. Andersson, Howden, and a veteran signing could round out the bottom two Cs.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

this is like a weird myt thing I keep seeing pop up as if Panarin can only play with a guy like Strome. he crushed it with anisimov with Dubois he looks great with Mika who many here compare Chytil being a younger version. Panarin does a lot of damage at that half wall. Playing with a big center they can gain the line dish it off to him and open up space by going to the middle like he did on that play as well as a guy that can win board battles retrieve pucks and get them back to him is far more valuable. Panarin is an elite player he shouldn’t be tied to Ryan Strome as if that’s the only way he can produce

All those guys you listed are east west guys, and any comparison to Mika isnt accurate. Mika has always been a high skill, high iq player. Chytil does a lot of his work because of his straight line speed. As I said before I have no problem with them being linemates but the third guy has to be more of a east west guy to set things up. The more accurate comparison on our team would be Kreider to Chytil. Outside of the physical attributes Kreider has they play basically the same style. Im sure that's why Quinn tried him in Kreiders spot if only briefly and id be ok if he gave him another extended shot there. Not sure if that explains what I mean well enough or not.

 

[JimmyG89]

Someone will bite know Strome if he is available. Even if a team views him as a 3rd line center, the amount of teams looking for that will be pretty big.

Just hope Gorton doesn't think that with keeping Kreider that we need to change gears and keep him. He's not the answer.

I'd honestly look at packaging our later 1st and Strome and see if we can get someone on term that can fill that 2C role well.

Not sure if he's played it enough, but does anyone watch Anaheim enough to know if Rakell plays center? I know he came up as one, and is on wing right now. Feel like he's a smarter player that would work well here.

Anaheim could get a temporary replacement and a #1 to help their rebuild. Maybe a bigger trade if they look at Lindholm too.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

2nd and a prospect would be great value for strome.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

I can get behind trading Strome if we have a viable option to play with Panarin,because as we have seen so far, when Strome isn't going Panarin goes with Mika because there isn't any other viable option. The other thing in play is if Panarin likes playing with Strome, if he does then he isnt going anywhere.

 

[Mac n Gs]

If they even decide to move Strome, I don't think it'll be for a pick and a prospect. They'll try to move him to fill a need at another position in a player-for-player swap. I'm starting to think we're past the point where Gorton is looking to move his guys for rental prices. IMO, Gorton sees the framework for the team he wants to build for the 2020s decade, and he'll do what he needs to do to add to that core.

 

[Kovalev27]

Anisimov and Dubois are not East west players. That’s just not accurate

 

[mike14]

If they even decide to move Strome, I don't think it'll be for a pick and a prospect. They'll try to move him to fill a need at another position in a player-for-player swap. I'm starting to think we're past the point where Gorton is looking to move his guys for rental prices. IMO, Gorton sees the framework for the team he wants to build for the 2020s decade, and he'll do what he needs to do to add to that core.

If we can move Strome for an upgrade at LD I'm very interested, otherwise we are probably better off keeping him until at least next year's TDL

 

[Kovalev27]

This management group was able to realize Stepan Brassard and Brady Skjei more recently weren’t going to get it done. I’m hoping they see what Ryan Strome really is.