Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XXIX

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  1. Gardner McKay Global Moderator

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    Please refrain from posting unreliable sources in this thread. Not sure what that means? Roger Dicklund, NHLrumorsdaily or Forever Blueshirts4 are not reliable.

    What is a credible source? Brooks, McKenzie, Dreger, etc.

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    I’d be ok if the return is overwhelming but it usually is not!
     
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    Stop winning games!
     
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    I could see them holding him through the deadline. But I could see them taking the best offer at the draft, slightly unexpectedly. Even if is built around a ~teens pick and HF isn't thrilled.
     
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    No, but they might be buyers now that they can’t stop winning.
    Forget the draft lottery. These guys will be lucky, if they draft 8th!
    Start holding guys out for Pete’s sake!
     
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    assuming kevin hayes is still around to man center, do the rangers have enough to spend on the below?
    LW: panarin, skinner or dzingel
    RW: stone, silfverberg, or nyquist
    also would it cost about the same amount to sign brock nelson as it would for hayes?
     
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    We are rebuilding, not going for the cup next season.
     
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    Last game for Hayes, Zuccarello, McQuaid pls.
     
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    If we’re doing a serious rebuild, signing any of those players is not a priority — unless we acquire him with the intent to exchange for a prospect or pick.
     
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    Skjei to Minnesota for Jordan Greenway and MIN1.
     
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    Buchnevich to Florida for Henrik Borgstrom
     
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    Minnesota might be sellers.
     
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    These aren't real trades. This is a ruse.
     
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    No doubt - but that doesn't change that deal at all.

    I'm trying to think of something a bit off the grid - could see something like it. Don't know how Quinn (truly) feels about Skjei...I do think I know how he feels about 89.
     
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    I heard laughter all the way from south florida
     
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    no one in South Florida actually cares...

    but sentiment understood - not a straight deal, I'm shooting from the hip. Trying to think of something different.
     
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    I was 4 when the Rangers won the cup. If they continue to do shit like this, I can be assured I'll never see one in my lifetime that I actually get to enjoy.
     
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    Who has been our best PPQB statistically?

    By my eye-test, Pionk of course played there for a while when everything went in, but I do think that TDA is doing the best job when being on it. I think we underrate TDA some, he is playing really good. Think it would show more if we had a better team.

    I don't think Shatty is doing a great job on the PP anymore [sic?]. He is OK there, but not great from my POV.
     
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  19. RangerBoy The Rebuild Is Over. The Build Continues.

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    Kreider's name is out there. If the Rangers weren't talking to teams about him, his name wouldn't be out there. TSN has him on their trade list. Why is Kreider such as indispensable part? He is very overrated by the Rangers fanbase. Every year it's the same thing with him. This is the year he breaks out. Next year is the year he breaks out. He has 4 goals in the last 22 games. His last goal was 7 games ago against Los Angeles. Kreider had 20 goals on December 29. He was pace for 44 goals. Now he is pace for 33. That number goes down every game. 28 goals is his career high. He will be 29 when his next contract begins. Look at the aging curves. A 5-6 year contract takes him to 34-35 at the end of that contract. He will not be a productive player for most of that contract. Ages 30/31 to the end. Kreider is a nice guy and everything but let another team pay him.

    Teams didn't want to give Machado and Harper crazy term because analytics are so good. The Padres were desperate and they weren't the player's top ten choice of teams. Players decline in their early to mid 30's in baseball and teams didn't want to be left holding the bag. The Yankees didn't want to do it. Everyone had them signing one of those players to a 10 year plus contract. The Yankees employ 20 people in their analytics department. It's much earlier in hockey. The decline begins at the start of Kreider's next contract.
     
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    If I were Panarin and I wanted to play in the NYC area I would seriously consider the Islanders. Just saying. You can play for a mediocre team next year that probably won't make the playoffs--actually if we're including the Devils--there are two mediocre teams or you can play for a team that will probably make the playoffs again and that's the Islanders.
     
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    I would most definitely not call the Islanders “probable” to make the playoffs next year considering the major factor in their record this year is two journeymen goalies putting up a combined.939 sv% at 5v5 and .925 overall.
     
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    I got this feeling that the Rangers aren't going to do what they did at the deadline last year. First--Quinn is not AV and not in the doghouse and his team is not in a state of shellshock (like happened after the letter). Second--McDonagh had been banged up and quite possibly Nash too. Third--the team is actively trying to win games and I don't think Quinn would be pleased. 4th--we're going with 12 forwards and 8 more than less healthy D--the healthy forwards are going to play.
     
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    They're a lot more probable than we are and if Panarin does sign with them that just increases the likelihood. They've also got a pretty good chance of winning the division this year (despite or) because their goaltending has been pretty good.
     
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    It is irresponsible to play your big trade chips this close to the deadline. That's on Gorton.

    Imagine Hayes or Zuccarello get injured before the TDL. Poof. There goes a few first/second round picks and prospects, and now you're forced to either lose them to free agency for nothing, get a low round picks for their UFA rights (like Yandle), or sign them to expensive extensions. None of these options are in the team's best interest.

    Also, Quinn doesn't care. He will play the players provided to him. He understands that this is a business. He's even said as much. Multiple times. The team will try to win games with whatever lineup they have.
     
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    I agree that DeAngelo has looked better on the PP than Shatty, though it's been tough for him recently to carry a unit with little talent on it. When he had Hayes (and Shatty for a stretch, to be fair) with him on the PP2 at the start of the year they were actually the second most dangerous unit in the league in terms of HDCF/60 after the Leafs' PP1. After Hayes was promoted to the first unit Tony hasn't been able to sustain that and for the minutes where he hasn't even had Buch on there the unit has basically not been able to do anything. He's only gotten 10 minutes in total on the PP1 and the results were fantastic, though such a minuscule sample is hard to draw conclusions from.

    In terms of the eye-test, Tony is more dynamic, moves around more and subsequently makes more happen.

    At this point I'd give him at least a five-game stretch to run the top unit to see how it goes, though it could spell trouble for the contract negotiations this summer if he starts to put up too many points.
     
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    Is guy considered click bait?
    Gardner?
     
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