Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XLII Time for Curtis Lazar?

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Lottery question:

If we beat Carolina and Toronto wins their series agains the Blue Jackets, do we automatically get the Maple Leafs pick, i.e. there's no way for them to land in the top-10?

Correct

 

[Shesterkybomb]

more then 1 game is insane especially ina playoff situation. The hit was on the shoulder, Donskoi is always getting hurt. His season ended like the rest of the teams seasons ended. A fine is the most I would give him for that shoulder hit. Did Buchnevich get hit in the head , I can't remember what team and not even a penealty, that hit wa worse then the one Lemiux did, no penelty no fine, no suspension on that play.

My guess is he is suspended during the 20-21 season as there were still regular season games left to play when he was to be suspended and wouldnt have missed a playoff game if the season had continued

 

[eco's bones]

Lottery question:

If we beat Carolina and Toronto wins their series agains the Blue Jackets, do we automatically get the Maple Leafs pick, i.e. there's no way for them to land in the top-10?

We get whichever is the worst of the two. I think the Leafs pick is top ten protected though--so if the Leafs lost in the play-in but won the lottery--the Leafs would get their 1st back and Carolina would get the Leafs 1st next year and the Rangers would get Carolina's 1st this year. By the way I like Columbus over the Maple Leafs. I don't like the Maple Leafs D very much at all and the Leafs are one of the softest teams in the league. Columbus has the better D, better goaltending and will beat them up physically.

 

[bobbop]

Two other interesting notes about Buffalo and NYR over the past couple of recent years:

• Buffalo was interested in Drury as a GM before hiring Botterril. Kind of like a Sakic in COL, or Stevie Y in DET type of hiring. Bring back your old captain as a GM. I believe the Rangers said no.

• Greeley, a former BU and NYR executive team member is in Buffalo. Greeley left the NYR to go to BUF. As an aside- Greeley was really high on Middlestadt.

One would think that if Botterill does gets cashed out at some point, Drury will be the logical replacement.

 

[Irishguy42]

Lottery question:

If we beat Carolina and Toronto wins their series agains the Blue Jackets, do we automatically get the Maple Leafs pick, i.e. there's no way for them to land in the top-10?

Unless two unassigned picks win a lotto slot and then both the Leafs and Canes win one of those picks in the subsequent draw, then yes.

Highest the Leafs pick can be outside of getting into Top 3 is 11th, by my count.

 

[Leetch3]

Unless two unassigned picks win a lotto slot and then both the Leafs and Canes win one of those picks in the subsequent draw, then yes.

Highest the Leafs pick can be outside of getting into Top 3 is 11th, by my count.

if toronto wins their series then they aren't in the lottery

 

[Thirty One]

if toronto wins their series then they aren't in the lottery

I hope they LOSE then

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

What we want is:

Scenario A: Both the Canes and Leafs to lose their play-in series, and both win the lottery

Scenario B: Lose to the Canes and win the lottery ourselves

Either scenario, we get a top 3 pick

 

[Ola]

Some news on Lias:
Efter schismen – kan få spela NHL-slutspel
https://translate.google.se/translate?hl=sv&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fww.aftonbladet.se%2Fsportbladet%2Fhockey%2Fa%2Fb5AA3B%2Fkan-atervanda-efter-avstangning

The gist of it, his agent confirms a dialogue with NYR. Lias comment is just "I do not know what I am allowed to say or not so I have no comment".

Hank and Lias have been skating with Frölunda since 11 May.

 

[East Coast Bias]

Lias comment is just "I do not know what I am allowed to say or not so I have no comment".

Probably for the best. Glad he learned his lesson.

 

[Ola]

Probably for the best. Glad he learned his lesson.

Yeah.

The speculation and headlinging of the articles in Sweden seem to speculate on a return. But wouldn't bet on it. Its unfortunate that the SHL season was cancelled. Now I think its best to leave him in the SHL for another year and then move him when something makes sense. He will do a fairly good job there. There will always be cases where it makes sense to move players with some pedigree/potential but its hard to pull of these trades because it could make the GM pulling the trigger look really bad. Hence we often see these players/prospects traded for each other. If Lias can get back to being a top player for HV71 teams will take notice. There is the national team too. The NHL teams are definitely aware of how things are going at those scenes.

Just think its the best use of assets.

 

[Mikos87]

One would think that if Botterill does gets cashed out at some point, Drury will be the logical replacement.

Yeah and that's if Drury wants to be there. That in itself could be a pre-cursor to an Eichel trade. Drury after all, would know the Rangers farm system very well, and have his select guys.

At the same time, it might be career suicide to join Buffalo without a lot of structural changes. Really looking at a 3-4 year horizon, and that's with a couple of transaction seasons worth of really good moves.

 

[Mikos87]

Some news on Lias:
Efter schismen – kan få spela NHL-slutspel
https://translate.google.se/translate?hl=sv&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fww.aftonbladet.se%2Fsportbladet%2Fhockey%2Fa%2Fb5AA3B%2Fkan-atervanda-efter-avstangning

The gist of it, his agent confirms a dialogue with NYR. Lias comment is just "I do not know what I am allowed to say or not so I have no comment".

Hank and Lias have been skating with Frölunda since 11 May.

Most mature thing he's done since the WJC gold medal game.

 

[IDvsEGO]

Lottery question:

If we beat Carolina and Toronto wins their series agains the Blue Jackets, do we automatically get the Maple Leafs pick, i.e. there's no way for them to land in the top-10?

No, Carolina has the choice of what pick to give us. Likely they'll give us the lower so it'll be the Toronto pick, but likely once those two picks are locked in, that's when we'll get notice as to which pick it is.

 

[Leetch3]

No, Carolina has the choice of what pick to give us. Likely they'll give us the lower so it'll be the Toronto pick, but likely once those two picks are locked in, that's when we'll get notice as to which pick it is.

we get the lower of the 2 picks unless toronto is top 10 and they keep their pick....carolina doesn't get to pick nor would they pick to give us the lower pick. if we beat carolina and toronto moves on that means toronto's pick will be higher and we get their pick.

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

we get the lower of the 2 picks unless toronto is top 10 and they keep their pick....carolina doesn't get to pick nor would they pick to give us the lower pick. if we beat carolina and toronto moves on that means toronto's pick will be higher and we get their pick.

Right, which is why I was asking that if Toronto beats the Blue Jackets, is there any chance for them to still land in the Top-10.

 

[Tawnos]

Right, which is why I was asking that if Toronto beats the Blue Jackets, is there any chance for them to still land in the Top-10.

If Toronto wins their series, they will not land top ten. If you want a run down on all the scenarios, check my post on the first page of this thread.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Wonder where Lias slots in if he indeed does join the team? Is this more or less happening because we think Kakko might not play? To bring him here to play 4th line minutes again is gonna blow up on us.
Currently I have Chytil as a lock for 3c and then Kakko, Lemieux, Gauthier and even Howden as better options at the NHL level. I mean, if we are going down this road and don't give him ice time we can kiss him goodbye, he would be better off staying in Sweden. If he is amicable to being an extra then he has done some serious growing up and that would be a good thing for us, I still believe the only option that will get any value from him is to fix the relationship so maybe there's hope, but they better not blow this.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Wonder where Lias slots in if he indeed does join the team? Is this more or less happening because we think Kakko might not play? To bring him here to play 4th line minutes again is gonna blow up on us. I mean, if we are going down this road and don't give him ice time we can kiss him goodbye, he would be better off staying in Sweden. If he is amicable to being an extra then he has done some serious growing up and that would be a good thing for us, I still believe the only option that will get any value from him is to fix the relationship so maybe there's hope, but they better not blow this.

The team inviting him over for an expanded roster is them playing nice publicly with a guy who no one else wants.

And if he does end up playing, it's probably gonna be a 4th line role, and the team will probably be praying he looks competent enough so they can unload him to some other team

 

[Ola]

Most mature thing he's done since the WJC gold medal game.

We should start a go fund me and get him when of those Adult Points Books (do you have them in the US?).

 

[Avery16]

Wonder where Lias slots in if he indeed does join the team? Is this more or less happening because we think Kakko might not play? To bring him here to play 4th line minutes again is gonna blow up on us.
Currently I have Chytil as a lock for 3c and then Kakko, Lemieux, Gauthier and even Howden as better options at the NHL level. I mean, if we are going down this road and don't give him ice time we can kiss him goodbye, he would be better off staying in Sweden. If he is amicable to being an extra then he has done some serious growing up and that would be a good thing for us, I still believe the only option that will get any value from him is to fix the relationship so maybe there's hope, but they better not blow this.

LA would be a black ace, hopefully work his butt off in practices and take a break from the video games. Maybe can earn 4th line minutes, make the most of them.

 

[RangersFan1994]

LA would be a black ace, hopefully work his butt off in practices and take a break from the video games. Maybe can earn 4th line minutes, make the most of them.

id rather have Haley in the playoffs over Andersson. yea I said it.

 

[Avery16]

id rather have Haley in the playoffs over Andersson. yea I said it.

They would likely both be black aces, and Quinn would choose who gets a shot based off effort at practices and personal preference.

 

[Leetch3]

Right, which is why I was asking that if Toronto beats the Blue Jackets, is there any chance for them to still land in the Top-10.

and the answer to that is no...toronto can't end up in the top 10 unless they lose to columbus.

 

[eco's bones]

id rather have Haley in the playoffs over Andersson. yea I said it.

He had a season ending bilateral core muscle surgery. I don't know how long it takes to get over that but I'm guessing it would take a while.