Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part XIV: There ain't no gettin' off of this train we're on

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  1. NYR Viper

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    Daily Antoine Roussel name drop here
     
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    Isn't this what we all pretty much wanted? For Grabs to head to NJ and not put up big goals/points and come back here on a decent 2-3 year deal?
    Like mentioned before put him on the 3rd or 4th line not top 6 and he will be more than fine. Obviously depends on the other moves we make or don't make (kovalchuk, other NHL free agents, etc) but I highly doubt Grabner will become a Smith no matter what coach we bring in.
     
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    Great points about the AV/Torts comparison. I remember reading McD’s letter to us when he was traded about how he and Stepan were stuck In traffic one day and McD was straight up scared about showing up tardy. He was worried about Torts.

    Aside from playing with more of an edge, I think Torts’s fiery personality rubbed off on his players too. He preached accountability and despite his flaws as a coach, he was true to his word when it came to that.

    This current team really needs a Prust-type. Someone who can play in most situations, possesses a physical aspect to his game, and willing to drop the mitts.

    Torts’s team also had more bangers. Girardi was in his prime. Dubi and Callahan were physical. Avery to when he wasn’t yapping.
     
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    I've brought up Matt Martin, as have others. If TO would hold some salary I'd be interested. I don't think he is a bad player for a 4th line
     
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    Martin is kind of the text book "run around and look engaged and like he's doing a lot but ultimately is spending a whole lot of time without the puck and therefor not actually contributing towards the most part of winning hockey games; scoring goals"
     
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    He's a bad player. Period.
     
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    Have to agree. If we're talking trends, the sweet spot of an NHL player's career seems to be getting shorter. I'm not sure Matt Martin ever had a sweet spot. Too much competition to have dead weight to be given a job.

    Every spot has to be useful.
     
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    And if they did not they didn't see more than 4 minutes of ice time. That is ACTUAL accountability.
     
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    Grabner should follow AV wherever he goes. The player that he is for the Devils is likely the player he' be for us next season with a new coach. He was great for us but that ship has sailed.
     
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    Mac n Gs Gorton plz

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    We didn’t get Heiksanen AND Faksa!?!? Fire Groton!
     
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    Faksa is an overrated bust tho, just like Andersson
     
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    At least Faksa can skate.
     
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    Kreider is certainly a guy that can fill that role. As strong as anyone in the league including the remaining goons. Perfect for fit for toughness in the league going forward. I prefer someone like Kreider to an agitator like Roussel.
     
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    Stepan skates like Bure when compared to Andersson.
     
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    I have a gut feeling Zuccarello stays. He's the people's player and at the end of the day we are talking about the NYR. Tickets need to be sold and you do not want to piss off your fans. Zucc + Kovy = sold tickets. As prioritized as the rebuild will be this summer I don't think they will put themselves in a position where they trade away one of the last beloved Rangers.
     
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    I refer you to Brooks last week. He had a list of players not likely to be dealt. Zuccarello was nowhere to be found on the list.
     
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    I don't think the team that Gorton wants to assemble includes a Roussel. Rangers definitely have been missing a certain level of 'bad manners' and hostility, but I think they will get that without having to bring in a guy already known for it. The team will hopefully have that kind of character develop and emerge from within.
     
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    Rangers will sell out with or without Zucc.
     
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    Gorton has no time for beloved players. He'd trade Lundqvist if he could.
     
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    I don't know man. I think the agitator is your modern day goon. If you don't have one, I think you're putting your team at a disadvantage.
     
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    Zucc and Kovalchuk are not going to be the difference between sellouts and Devils crowds.
     
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    Gorton and company write a letter to the fanbase explaining some favorite players are likely to be moved, but, somehow that’s not supposed to include Zuccarello.
     
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    I said Howden late season, as in 9 games at the end of the year.

    You don't think one of Chytil or Andersson could consistently play on the 2nd line next year and do well with linemates like JVR and Zucc? Ohhhkay then....

    Also, I've read from a couple places that Lindgren and Hajek will get real looks in Training Camp and have a chance to make a claim for a spot.

    You write off everyone as quickly as possible. I'm not entertaining this conversation much further, but I felt compelled to reply to this one.
     
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    Because hes loveable and gritty and untouchable if we ignore the fact that he was MIA for most of the season and that he only led the team in scoring because Kreider and Zibanejad got hurt, the coach hated Buchnevich and he got nearly triple the PP time that Hayes got.
     
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    Seems like there's not many around just like the modern day goon.
     
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