Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XI

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  1. Gardner McKay

    Gardner McKay You had to be there

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    Continue.
     
  2. Tawnos

    Tawnos A guy with a bass

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  3. Gardner McKay

    Gardner McKay You had to be there

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    Now they are losing me. Scratching Shattenkirk to hold him accountable is fine. Scratching Shattenkirk to hold him accountable while simultaneously allowing Staal to remain anchored to the defense is absolutely ****ing asinine.
     
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    Does pionk need waivers. If not they should send him down to the A
     
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    It usually isn't the case that a player gets scratched for "bad play" in the sense of poor performance. Usually, it's more that they get scratched for not playing up to their ability. Staal's ability isn't nearly as good as Shattenkirk's, but of the two, Staal is definitely the one playing closer to his ability (such as it is).
     
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    Gardner McKay You had to be there

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    If Staal's maximum playing ability is 2/10 and Shattenkirks is 7/10, but Shatty is only playing to a 5/10 and Staal is playing to a 1.5/10, it is still a ridiculously poor decision IMO.
     
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    Kirk being scratched is just baffling... not because it is undeserved but I really thought he'd show up ready to play.

    Maybe not healed fully yet?
     
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    I'm not sure he is either 100% healthy or is 100% trusting of his body right now. People need to remember that there is a mental aspect to coming back from a major injury as well
     
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    It's more like Shattenkirk is playing 5/10 when he could play 7/10, and Staal is playing pineapples/10 when that's pretty much all he's capable of.

    So yeah, it's a ridiculously poor decision.

    By that standard, I should get a look. I can't play at all so I'm meeting expectations.
     
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    Healthy scratches are about sending a message to the player and the team. For young players, who are going to make a lot of mistakes, the message should be "play as well as you're capable" not "don't mess up."
     
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    There are two others that need benching over him. Shatty looks tentative yes but at least he is not hot garbage like Staal-Pionk......

    or is it Paal-Stionk.
     
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    If you were on the team, and were playing up to your ability of not being able to play at all, Shattenkirk would get scratched before you.
     
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    Quinn doesn't give Shatty any privileges just because of their friendship based on earlier years, didn't give him an A either. That's interesting...but good.
     
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    To be fair, ADA proved last game that he is the more capable PPQB which is pretty much Shattenkirk's main weapon. So if we just look at it like ADA in for Shattenkirk that makes sense. Not defending leaving Staal in but that's one way to look at it
     
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    Good to know Shattenkirk would get scratched before me. Reeks of accountability.
     
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    It does, in fact.
     
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    I'll be sure to include that in my email to Gorton asking for a contract.

    "I'll meet expectations!"
     
  20. Gardner McKay

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    Again. I get it. That doesn't change the fact that sending a message 2-3 games into the season is a poor idea.

    Also, keep in mind, I don't dislike Staal as much as some here do. This decision just perplexes me a bit. Well, more than a bit. A whole hell of a lot.
     
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    Shattenkirk's looked really slow so far.

    I too wonder what the health of his knee is.
     
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    So just to get it straight, rebuilding team puts their best offensive forward prospects on the 4th line, puts their best defensive prospects with Staal after putting their 2nd best defensive prospect with Staal, and I am the crazy, unclear, lacking context poster for having concerns.
     
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    We're almost 4 weeks into Quinn's tenure as coach.
     
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    To me you look at the two vets he’s benched. Hayes and Shatty its the two guys he has the best relationship with and probably the two guys he could pull aside and say look I’m doing this to spark the team have my back here.

    He’s not doing it to staal because he doesn’t have the relationship to do it.

    It’s not the easy way out completely but it’s also not the toughest either.

    Staal should be sat. And Zucc should have been benched too.
     
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