Speculation: Roster Building Thread LXXXVIII: 3-2-1 TDL almost here!

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  1. jay from jersey Registered User

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    Yes, I second that. If they do deal him they are going to want multiple players Dahlin s Cozens age for their core. They’ll get another high pick this year and have Quinn coming. If they make a smart trade they really could develop a nice young core
     
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    Its just going to suck watching two of Schneider, Skinner and Lundkvist blossom on other teams while Trouba hangs on by his NMC/NTC for the next five seasons.
     
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    Because of the flux around our ability to comfortably keep Zibanejad long-term, a trade for Eichel can't come at the expense of Chytil. If they won't take Strome as the chief F piece, Eichel can keep on pining and whining AFAIC.
     
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    Teams don’t trade those players. Teams don’t trade guys like Eichel unless they want out either. Big center prospects that have been traded in the last 20 years you can probably count on one hand. I do think they should have probably made a substantial offer for PLD. I don’t even know how serious those discussions got if there were any
     
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    Agreed but THAT is what we need. Not Eichel
     
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    I don’t think they let it get to the point of him NMC kicking in. Once he can dictate where he wants to go buffalo knows they get 10 cents on the dollar for him. As it sits right now there’s only 3-4 teams with the assets and the cap space. If your adams you don’t want that pool getting smaller
     
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    wrong thread.
     
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    Honestly, I wouldn't look to trade for Eichel unless the Sabres would accept Trouba and/or Kreider...oh and BTW, you have to convince those guys to waive their NMC and head to Buffalo...
     
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    Note in today’s 31T blog, Friedman also mentioned it during the podcast:

     
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    You can’t trade the guy who scored the 20,000th goal in Rangers franchise history.
     
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    Larkin makes a lot of sense if they could swing it, but Yzerman’s ask would be a ton
     
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    if yzerman got that much for mantha, larkin would be more expensive than eichel.
     
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    Looks like all true statements. Now I’m afraid.
     
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    To be completely honest, now that we’re seeing COVID Mika, he’s looking like a more than capable 1C. He was that player all of last season and much of the season before.

    I’m turning against trading a house for Eichel.

    I’d prefer to trade a decent apartment for an affordable cost controlled top 6 two way center like Larkin instead.
     
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    I have zero desire to trade with Detriot for this reason

    The last big trade Yzerman made with Gorton he took him to the cleaners
     
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    Plus what he just did to WSH... no thanks
     
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    • Larkin has been pretty inconsistent, would be a 2C for us, will be 25 before next season starts.
    • Strome is outproducing Larkin for $1.6 million less/year.
    • Larkin's also from MI, his entire career has been in MI.
    I just don't see Yzerman moving him, and I dont see us trying for him.
     
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    Rangers were not beating an offer of Laine and Roslovic
     
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    Eichel ain't the solution we are looking for.

    I could also see the team trading for a top center next offseason and rolling with Zib not being moved in a secondary trade, but rather treating him as a self-rental and only moving him at TDL if something goes wrong. Having a great top team that goes to the playoffs has convinced players (Zib in this case) to take more team friendly contracts before. Remind me the last time Zib had the opportunity to play on a perennial contender?
     
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    The solution at center is going to end up being someone no one here is talking about. I don't see Eichel coming here unless Buffalo retains at least 25% of his cap number and the Rangers give them a meager package in return. In today's flat cap and for the next couple of years, a $10 million cap hit, even if the player is playing well, is a boat anchor. Eichel is by no means untradeable, but he will be very difficult for Buffalo to move. Add his pouting and his injury this year, and that's a large undertaking for Buffalo. I also echo some concerns here that have been thrown around that the Rangers shouldn't be adding THAT kind of player to this locker room.

    Either way, it's getting tougher and tougher to decide who to retain moving forward with Kravtsov showing signs of life in his first handful of games. Still, I'm leaning towards cashing in the Kravtsov chip along with Strome to bring in a good 2C. Those two plus one of Robertson/Jones/Schneider brings in a really good player. Include two of those defensemen and it can even bring in a Barkov caliber player with an extension in place, IMO.

    Lundkvist is absolutely untouchable unless he's the headliner to bring in an extended Barkov, or a MacKinnon, McDavid, or Matthews kind of player. He's going to be that good, I think.

    The Rangers front office should be thanking their lucky stars Panarin is playing to his contract.
     
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    There's no way our management isn't aware if Eichel has an attitude issue, we have his coach from college 6 years ago. If it's supposedly been an issue since hes 16, it won't magically disappear for a year in college then resurface as a pro. If the Rangers do acquire Eichel, it's because they have done their research and it isn't a thing.

    Are you implying that you know more than you're letting on, RB?

    Anyways, my center solution is and always will be Barkov until he is extended or signed with another team. Then they can move on to a Point offer sheet. 5 years x 10.9m or 6 years x 9m is 2 1sts 2nd & 3rd for compensation
     
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    Gonna go by paragraph
    1) I think the alternate plan is a Zibby and Strome extension. So in a sense we aren't talking much about them. Eichel is the only other star center on the trade market.

    2) I trust Edge. For him, Lundkvist is the highest value not-untouchable. His touchability in increased by Fox, Trouba, Schneider down the right side.

    2B) If NYR trade for Eichel it's because he is in the Matthews MacKinnon territory to them. And yes Lundy is a good prospect but saying he'd only be dealt for a current top 5 center is silly. He has tremendous upside but we still don't know what his NHL potential is. He's as uncertain as K'Andre would be if he has stayed in the NCAA one additional season.

    3) Well yeah, we are all thrilled about that, but I'd say it's karma for having to put up with Wade Redden, as well as watching Richards, Drury, and Gomez (Though we didn't have to deal with him) all age like milk after signing with us.
     
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