Discussion in 'New York Rangers' started by Gardner McKay, May 4, 2021.
All. This is the roster building thread, not the Tom Wilson thread. Get back on topic.
This team has already performed under knoblauch. If Quinn is gone and we can’t poach Quenneville, just hand it over to Kris and Gord. They know the system the team has played and they know the personnel better than anyone we could bring in.
They've played a lot of hockey in not a lot of days. Miller first year off college schedule, fox has played a ton, laf is the one that I thought could go to get more pt, unless the team feels he needs more off ice training time to help further develop his body. Remember it's a short summer for them.
right or wrong, I don't see us going with another inexperienced coach so knoblauch probably isn't the guy right now.
who can blame them, these guys probably just want to go home and see their families
My list would be
Brindamour- highly unlikely
Torts/Knoblauch/ guys like green/ or AHL guy like Keefe was before he signed with the leafs all fall in the same category for me
People on these boards are pretty upset and I understand that. I am too, for the most part. However, there are a number of things that people are mad about, but their solutions are crazy.
Not enough ice time for Kakko, Laf, Krav and maybe Gauthier? Hire Torts. I'm sure he would play them so much.
Team isn't tough enough? Trade for Eichel(not tough) and more prospects that aren't available. E.g. Krebs, Newhook, Lundell, Halloway, Zegras, etc.
Need veteran leadership and presence of playoff players? Trade Kreider, Trouba, and Mika. The only existing playoffs players on the team. Haha
Now, I can be convinced of some things. I'm pretty open minded. But, Torts is bad for this team. He is bad for most teams. As for these prospects people keep throwing out there that aren't available that we should trade for, we have those. What we need are NHLers. We are young enough, like damn. How young do you want the team to be? Everyone under 25? Haha
A few personal opinions I have now that the season is over.
1.Miller should be kept at all costs. You dont trade a young, great rookie year, tall, strong, versatile dman like that for maybes like Jones(who shouldn't have been in the NHL), Robertson, and if you want to lump em in, Hajek and Reunanen. Every dman can't be 5'11".
2. Trouba is the captain of this team.
3. I think Buch should be traded. I like him. I like him a lot. But I think he is the perfect piece we can move for a little more, truculence.
4. Fire Quinn and either promote Martin or Knoblauch. This is one area I can be convinced of something else, but for sure not Torts.
5. It's either Mika or Strome. Not both. So we have to pick which one cause we need a center that's tougher to play against than both those guys. Someone who is a problem for other teams when we have the puck and dont, good in both ends and can take draws.
6. Trade Geogiev.
Fox is I’m sure a little worn down and banged up. They rode him hard down the stretch. He shouldn’t have been playing that many minutes but we had no choice
Torts was nurturing him, Torts style. I don't think Torts is a bad guy, it's just not everyone responds to his way of doing things. This is by no means a unique problem to have, people are different and have different dynamics.
It's the same with Quinn or whatever new coach comes eventually. If, say, Quinn is trying to make Kakko into a North South Quinn version of Kakko (Quakko) then he is a fool and Kakko needs to get out of town. Let Kakko be the best version of Kakko possible. I'm using Kakko as an example because I suspect Quinn is kind of Qryptonite for Kakko and possibly for Kravtsov. A new coach may be kryptonite for another player. I'd love to listen in on the exit interviews to be sure.
I’d rather hand it over to Martin for a season than Torts.
I'd rather our players not go to the WC and get as much training in as they can. People over estimate how much strength you can gain in a few months and its huge for young players to get in the gym and skate with skill coaches.
Strongly disagree on 1, 2, 3 & 4 lol
I feel like we can move on from Mika though, and his response to the incident was the nail in the coffin for me. I just don't think he is the type of player you win with as a leader of a team. I think there's a reason he never ended up getting the C
Carp has a weird view of his readers. Like he despises or resents them. He will bait people on the Athletic and then be condescending when they react how he wants. Contrarian. Say Gauthier plays for the first time in a month and looks rusty. "Gauthier proving why all these amateur GMs are unemployed."
Lundy, Pajuniemi, Kravstov, Kakko are the guys I’d like to see at worlds
Lol. I know you're exaggerating for effect but Torts has never said that.
Bringing back Torts is absolutely crazy, you guys are out your minds
The main Rangers factor in Chris Drury's David Quinn decision
Brooks thinks DQ is a goner.
drops the usual names plus Roy as guys to look for.
There may be some truth to perhaps some don't like Quinn but this is pure conjecture.
Do you know how many players HATED Scott Bowman during his cup runs with Montreal? Over the years I've heard many if not all of their top players. Except maybe Larry Robinson and Jacques Lemaire.
I know you can say that you would.
You and I can imagine the offensive production getting good enough to do it but right now, based on their performances, no you can't reasonably do it
It’s not a direct quote, but do you not remember him blaming losses on individual players by name? I sure do.
Carp baits the reader and Larry baits the players, coaches, and executives. Vince and Molly are our only hope.
A good amount on Tortorella here too. At least Brooks’ memory works.
We need to focus on roster construction. The coach will have to contend with that afterall. We have so much skill, but little grit. Who moves and who stays.
I wonder out of how many of those players that hated Bowman how many respected him?
I would think that’s the key.
Roy would be awful
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