Discussion in 'New York Rangers' started by Gardner McKay, May 4, 2021.
All. This is the roster building thread, not the Tom Wilson thread. Get back on topic.
I hope no torts. The year he coached us to the presidents trophy and the conference finals I fell asleep most 3rd periods out of pure boredom.
Hate when that happens
PLD quit on the team, and Torts, after years of putting effort into him to build him into a NHL C. And they didn't even get a clear answer out of PLD what the problem was. Trying to make Laine a two-way old fashioned power forward was lunacy. The game has moved on from Torts.
Took less than a day of following Carp again on Twitter to be reminded that he's a total drama queen.
Agreed, and the two guys who fit the bill the most on the team are guys everyone want shipped out...Kreider and Trouba.
The lack of playoff experience on this team is crazy. Aside from some earlier seasons with Ott, Mika has one playoff with us and the bubble. Definitely need more guys like Trouba who do it on and off the ice. Kreider just seems to be good off the ice.
His tease of the Lemieux thing last night is so embarrassing. It’s like he’s a gossip columnist.
The statement was 100% Dolan.
Lots of revisionist history going on around here regarding Torts.
There is still an Edmonton vibe about some aspects of the Rangers. Lots of big guys with not necessarily the most hockey sense to go with their size and speed (Miller, Howden, Chytil, Gauthier eg). When they do get their game together they are good players, but smaller hockey players with higher hockey smarts shouldn't be underestimated.
In what way?
He was really good for that type of team. His last year was painful but that's because they had Asham, Pyatt, Halpern, and we were thirsting for guys like the legendary Ben Ferriero because the team had major depth issues after the Nash trade and letting Fedotenko go.
It was when he discussed pld quitting during the game and how he felt he had to bench him bc w the modern athlete he feels his job is to manage personalities, maintain accountability, and culture.
I thought the perspective was great when looking at such a team game considering how modern athletes seem to becoming more individualistic in other sports
Absolutely, but let’s not pretend he’s not absolutely the most polarizing.
I can reasonably put kk above him by next season.
vk maybe needs another year but by eye test I can see a higher end game than buch can provide. Without top 6 opportunities I don’t know that he gets there as quickly and easily.
And that’s the exact problem. Pld was exactly the player torts should’ve been absolutely nurturing and instead managed to find a way to get him to want out.
I like how he wouldn’t let anyone step on the team logo in the center, I like how he can get the most of of guys. There’s good stuff to Torts. A great motivator but let’s not forget about the bad either. Probably not the worst guy to bring in for this situation but probably not the right guy either
so with all due respect to kevin rooney, who I think exceeded all expectations this year....who are some ideas of guys we can target to upgrade the 4th line?
I want a 4th line that can skate, is aggressive on the forecheck, gets in the other teams face and can be used as an energy/momentum line. playing physically hockey, not fighting preferably with some skill....
is there a 4C out there that you could put between Barron and Gauthier to achieve that?
obviously its not easy to find someone that checks all the boxes but some attributes I'd like in that guy
1) can kill penalties
2) can win some faceoffs
3) veteran with playoff experience
4) locker room leader
5) guy that brings the winning mentality that we need on the ice.
any thoughts on guys we should target?
They need top 9 time (adding 1-2 mins per game) but WITH prime power play ice. If kk and laf actually got legitimate pp time this year than this board isn't freaking out as much about their toi numbers as much bc it actually totals out better
If we can’t get Gallant than I’d be fine with torts. Pass on Bab and the rest.
So thirsty for the clicks
Goodrow UFA does everything stated above and would only cost cash
Derek Ryan too but Goodrow should be first on our wish list
First choice is a miracle happens and cheap ass Carolina screws up and doesn’t re-sign Brind’amour’s crew and he leaves, we back up the brinks truck. Not banking on it and it’s a long shot but stranger things have happened.
second choice - go in-house with Knoblach. One year contract no long term commit just in case someone else pops up.
third choice Gallant
Not sure this is a good idea
Where is this nonsense coming from that torts routinely called out players publicly and blamed individuals for losses? He almost always REFUSES to comment on individual players after a loss and most of the time if he did comment on an individual that player had deserved it.
He is a culture and accountability builder. These are things missing here. We can and should debate how the offense would work here with him but we are dismissing that he addresses the glaring holes that currently exist here.
We've had back to back player's coaches and the lack of team and accountability was on full display lately. Torts is the kind of guy I would love molding a CULTURE for young players of togetherness and accountability.
I thought Goodrow was a winger not a center, but he is definitely a name I'd be looking at
I really didn't expect miller to make it...but with Drury being the GM, I have to wonder if maybe Fox is banged up a bit and its his decision to not go?
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