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All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.

2017-18 salary ceiling​
|
$75,000,000​
Projected dollars committed |
71,795,000​
2016-17 bonus overage |
50,000​
Approximate cap space |
3,155,000​



PITTSBURGH PENGUINS
Forward.................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2017-18
|
2018-19
|
2019-20

Evgeni Malkin|
C​
|
30​
|
9,500,000​
|
9,500,000​
|
9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|
C​
|
29​
|
8,700,000​
|
8,700,000​
|
8,700,000​

Phil Kessel|
RW​
|
29​
|
6,800,000​
|
6,800,000​
|
6,800,000​

Patric Hornqvist|
RW​
|
30​
|
4,250,000​
|
UFA

Carl Hagelin|
LW​
|
28​
|
4,000,000​
|
4,000,000​
|
UFA

Conor Sheary|
LW​
|
25​
|
3,000,000​
|
3,000,000​
|
3,000,000​

Ryan Reaves|
RW​
|
30​
|
1,125,000​
|
UFA

Jake Guentzel|
LW​
|
22​
|
734,167​
|
734,167​
|
RFA

Bryan Rust|
RW​
|
25​
|
640,000​
|
RFA

Scott Wilson|
LW​
|
25​
|
625,000​
|
RFA

Tom Kuhnhackl|
LW​
|
25​
|
625,000​
|
RFA

Carter Rowney|
C​
|
28​
|
612,500​
|
UFA
Defense.................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2017-18
|
2018-19
|
.2019-20

Kris Letang|
D​
|
30​
|
7,250,000​
|
7,250,000​
|
7,250,000​

Justin Schultz|
D​
|
26​
|
5,500,000​
|
5,500,000​
|
5,500,000​

Brian Dumoulin|
D​
|
25​
|
4,100,000​
|
4,100,000​
|
4,100,000​

Olli Maatta|
D​
|
22​
|
4,083,333​
|
4,083,333​
|
4,083,333​

Matt Hunwick|
D​
|
32​
|
2,250,000​
|
2,250,000​
|
2,250,000​

Ian Cole|
D​
|
28​
|
2,100,000​
|
UFA

Derrick Pouliot|
D​
|
23​
|
800,000​
|
RFA

Chad Ruhwedel|
D​
|
27​
|
650,000​
|
650,000​
|
UFA
Goalie............,.......
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2017-18
|
2018-19
|
.2019-20

Matt Murray|
G​
|
23​
|
3,750,000​
|
3,750,000​
|
3,750,000​

Antti Niemi|
G​
|
33​
|
700,000​
|
UFA



WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS
Forward...............
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2017-18
|
2018-19
|
2019-20

Zach Aston-Reese|
LW​
|
22​
|
925,000​
|
925,000​
|
RFA

Adam Johnson|
C​
|
22​
|
925,000​
|
925,000​
|
RFA

Thomas Di Pauli|
C​
|
23​
|
742,500​
|
RFA

Freddie Tiffels|
LW​
|
22​
|
742,500​
|
742,500​
|
RFA

Teddy Blueger|
C​
|
22​
|
705,000​
|
RFA

Daniel Sprong|
RW​
|
20​
|
692,500​
|
RFA

Dominik Simon|
C​
|
22​
|
692,500​
|
RFA

Josh Archibald|
RW​
|
24​
|
675,000​
|
675,000​
|
RFA

Garrett Wilson|
LW​
|
26​
|
650,000​
|
650,000​
|
UFA

Greg McKegg|
C​
|
25​
|
650,000​
|
RFA

Tom Sestito|
LW​
|
29​
|
650,000​
|
UFA
Defense...............
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2017-18
|
2018-19
|
2019-20

Jeff Taylor|
D​
|
23​
|
742,500​
|
742,500​
|
RFA

Ethan Prow|
D​
|
24​
|
730,000​
|
RFA

Lukas Bengtsson|
D​
|
23​
|
705,000​
|
RFA

Frank Corrado|
D​
|
24​
|
650,000​
|
RFA

Jarred Tinordi|
D​
|
25​
|
650,000​
|
RFA

Zach Trotman|
D​
|
26​
|
650,000​
|
UFA

Kevin Czuczman|
D​
|
26​
|
650,000​
|
UFA

Chris Summers|
D​
|
29​
|
650,000​
|
650,000​
|
UFA
Goalie..................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2017-18
|
2018-19
|
2019-20

Sean Maguire|
G​
|
24​
|
705,000​
|
RFA

Casey DeSmith|
G​
|
25​
|
650,000​
|
650,000​
|
UFA

Tristan Jarry|
G​
|
22​
|
630,833​
|
RFA



UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Player........................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2016-17
|
News and notes

Mark Streit|
D​
|
39​
|
5,250,000​
| Signed with Montreal (1 year, $700k)

Chris Kunitz|
LW​
|
37​
|
3,850,000​
| Signed with Tampa Bay (1 year, $2M)

Trevor Daley|
D​
|
33​
|
3,300,000​
| Signed with Detroit (3 years, $3.178M per)

Ron Hainsey|
D​
|
36​
|
2,833,333​
| Signed with Toronto (2 years, $3M per)

Nick Bonino|
C​
|
29​
|
1,900,000​
| Signed with Nashville (4 years, $4.1M per)

Matt Cullen|
C​
|
40​
|
1,000,000​
|Once again sounds like Pens, Wild or retirement

Chad Ruhwedel|
D​
|
27​
|
575,000​
| Re-signed with Penguins (2 years, $650k per)

David Warsofsky|
D​
|
27​
|
575,000​
| Signed with Colorado (2 years, $675k per, 2-way)

Cameron Gaunce|
D​
|
27​
|
575,000​
| Signed with Columbus (2 years, $650k, 2-way)

Kevin Porter|
C​
|
31​
|
575,000​
| Signed with Buffalo (2 years, $650k, 2-way)

Garrett Wilson|
LW​
|
26​
|
575,000​
| Re-signed with Penguins (2 years, $650k per, 2-way)

Tim Erixon|
D​
|
26​
|
575,000​
| Did not receive qualifying offer

Stuart Percy|
D​
|
24​
|
575,000​
| Did not receive qualifying offer

Tom Sestito|
LW​
|
29​
|
575,000​
| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $650k, 2-way)



RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS
Player........................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2016-17
|
News and notes

Justin Schultz|
D​
|
26​
|
1,400,000​
| Re-signed with Penguins (3 years, $5.5M per)

Derrick Pouliot|
D​
|
23​
|
863,333​
| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $800k)

Brian Dumoulin|
D​
|
25​
|
800,000​
| Re-signed with Penguins (6 years, $4.1M per )

Oskar Sundqvist|
C​
|
23​
|
700,833​
| Traded to St. Louis for Ryan Reaves

Conor Sheary|
LW​
|
25​
|
667,500​
| Re-signed with Penguins (3 years, $3M per)

Josh Archibald|
RW​
|
24​
|
659,167​
| Re-signed with Penguins (2 years, $675k per)

Frank Corrado|
D​
|
24​
|
600,000​
| Re-signed with Penguins (1 year, $650k, 2-way)

Jean-Sebastien Dea|
C​
|
23​
|
585,000​
|Needs to take bigger step from AHL supporting cast



SIGNED PROSPECTS
Player​
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
Current Team
|
Contract

Filip Gustavsson|
G​
|
19​
|
Lulea HF (SHL)​
|
3 years, 775,833 per​



UNSIGNED PROSPECTS
Player​
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
Current Team (League)

Niclas Almari|
D​
|
19​
|HPK (Liiga)

Anthony Angello|
F​
|
21​
|Cornell (ECAC)

Dane Birks|
D​
|
21​
|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Kasper Bjorkqvist|
F​
|
19​
|Providence (HEA)

Blaine Byron|
F​
|
22​
|Maine (HEA)

Jan Drozg|
F​
|
18​
|Shawinigan (QMJHL)

Connor Hall|
D​
|
19​
|Kitchener (OHL)

Ryan Jones|
D​
|
21​
|Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)

Sam Lafferty|
F​
|
22​
|Brown (ECAC)

Zachary Lauzon|
D​
|
18​
|Rouyn-Noranda (QMJHL)

Joe Masonius|
D​
|
20​
|Connecticut (HEA)

Linus Olund|
F​
|
20​
|Brynas IF (SHL)

Antti Palojarvi|
D​
|
18​
|Lukko U20 (SML Jr.A)

Nikita Pavlychev|
F​
|
20​
|Penn State (B1G)

Clayton Phillips|
D​
|
17​
|Fargo (USHL)

Will Reilly|
D​
|
19​
|RPI (ECAC)

Dominik Uher|
C​
|
24​
|HC Sparta Praha (ELH)
 
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Shady Machine

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Excellent point.

If anyone has untapped potential secondary to "ineffective coaching" (politically correctly stated), Girgensons the player. Additionally, GMJR appears to be nicely enabled in successfully ferreting out reclamation projects. Furthermore, at 1.6 million for 2-years, Girg is comfortably within JR's budget perspective.

I guess the question is why would a new regime in Buffalo under Botts trade away a young guy with potential before they see what he has under a new coach?
 

Empoleon8771

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I guess the question is why would a new regime in Buffalo under Botts trade away a young guy with potential before they see what he has under a new coach?

He may not want to, but getting a guy he knows in Wilson or a guy who fills an organization need in Pouliot may be attractive to him.
 

Shady Machine

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He may not want to, but getting a guy he knows in Wilson or a guy who fills an organization need in Pouliot may be attractive to him.

Yeah that's reasonable. Just knowing how valuable centers are, particularly those that can play wing and had produced 30 points as a teenager, I wouldn't be trading Girgensons for Wilson or Pouliot if I were Botts. I would wait to see what I had in my young guys before I made any material changes with them.

On the Pens side, Girgensons is an attractive buy low option, although his faceoff % blows (44.8% career).
 

Ogrezilla

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I don't really care what HF voted. I'm just saying he's not the same Tanger of yesterday. He doesn't control the play anymore. He is still a solid dman but nowhere near as good as he once was. That's all.

Letang has never been better than he was in 2016. Had he played the whole season under Sully, I think he'd have won or at least been nominated for the Norris. And I would have had no problem giving him the Conn Smythe. So I have to ask what you're basing this on? The half season where he only put up 34 points in 41 games? Which is 4th for pts/game for d-men on the season.
 

Empoleon8771

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Yeah that's reasonable. Just knowing how valuable centers are, particularly those that can play wing and had produced 30 points as a teenager, I wouldn't be trading Girgensons for Wilson or Pouliot if I were Botts. I would wait to see what I had in my young guys before I made any material changes with them.

On the Pens side, Girgensons is an attractive buy low option, although his faceoff % blows (44.8% career).

That's fair to say. I could see Botterill thinking highly of Wilson though, since he was involved with him a lot with WBS and saw what he did as a rookie last year. Since Girgensons is currently slotted in at LW for the Sabres (Eichel, ROR and Larsson are their top-9 centers), I could see Botterill thinking Wilson has the upside to justify moving Girgensons for him. Buffalo is pretty thin at LW after Kane and Kane probably won't be around for that much longer.
 

Speaking Moistly

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Letang has never been better than he was in 2016. Had he played the whole season under Sully, I think he'd have won or at least been nominated for the Norris. And I would have had no problem giving him the Conn Smythe. So I have to ask what you're basing this on? The half season where he only put up 34 points in 41 games? Which is 4th for pts/game for d-men on the season.

And that's with a nagging injury for part of his games played iirc. It's not about the calibre of player he is because he is that elite #1, it's about how fragile he is and that you'd expect the injuries to take a toll eventually.
 

PensandCaps

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Dea has a bit of skill and actually plays centre unlike Simon and probably the most NHL ready between he and Blugers. Glad we kept him, he's put up decent Stats down in the A. Probably a better option than McKegg.
 

mpp9

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ZG has one season with double digit goals. Looks like more of a 4C to me. So that'd make our center depth 1A/1B/4A/4B.

Na. Not interested.
 

PensandCaps

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ZG before Bylsma was a good top 9 player. He is someone I'd want here because of our coach knows how to get the best out of players. ZG was ruined by Bylsma, wouldn't shock me at all if he puts up 30 points in Buffalo as a #3C who moves up and down the lineup, now that Bylsma is gone
 

Empoleon8771

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ZG has one season with double digit goals. Looks like more of a 4C to me. So that'd make our center depth 1A/1B/4A/4B.

Na. Not interested.

Girgensons in his sophomore year was on pace for 20 goals and 40 points. I'm not totally sold on him as the 3C option, but he has certainly played at that level in the past. I don't put much stock into what he did under Bylsma, I think Penguins fans should understand that more than anyone else.
 

PensandCaps

Beddy Tlueger
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WBS is stacked. Now that Dea has signed, thats another solid AHLer. Too bad we rip away all their good players come playoffs lol.
 

mpp9

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Girgensons in his sophomore year was on pace for 20 goals and 40 points. I'm not totally sold on him as the 3C option, but he has certainly played at that level in the past. I don't put much stock into what he did under Bylsma, I think Penguins fans should understand that more than anyone else.

I don't think we should be using assets to acquire a guy who might be able to play 3C on a good team, let alone one that's trying to win three Cups in a row.

Much rather pick up one of Vegas' spare centers. And that's like plan D for me.
 

Harvey Birdman

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Girgensons in his sophomore year was on pace for 20 goals and 40 points. I'm not totally sold on him as the 3C option, but he has certainly played at that level in the past. I don't put much stock into what he did under Bylsma, I think Penguins fans should understand that more than anyone else.

This is who I wish JR would target for a trade. I feel at worst... At absolute worst we get a player that would out perform Rowney in the 4C role. Ideally he clicks in his game with our system and becomes a solid 3C. Also I can not imagine he would cost a whole heck of a lot. A 2nd rounder? 3rd + Decent Prospect? I imagine that would be his absolute ceiling of value currently. Would be a solid low risk high reward type of trade.
 

Empoleon8771

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This is who I wish JR would target for a trade. I feel at worst... At absolute worst we get a player that would out perform Rowney in the 4C role. Ideally he clicks in his game with our system and becomes a solid 3C. Also I can not imagine he would cost a whole heck of a lot. A 2nd rounder? 3rd + Decent Prospect? I imagine that would be his absolute ceiling of value currently. Would be a solid low risk high reward type of trade.

I think Wilson for Girgensons is by far the most realistic deal if we're talking about Girgensons.

I don't think we should be using assets to acquire a guy who might be able to play 3C on a good team, let alone one that's trying to win three Cups in a row.

Much rather pick up one of Vegas' spare centers. And that's like plan D for me.

I honestly don't consider trading for Girgensons to be that much different than trading for Karlsson, who I've been adamant about being fine with as the 3C.
 

Harvey Birdman

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I think Wilson for Girgensons is by far the most realistic deal if we're talking about Girgensons.



I honestly don't consider trading for Girgensons to be that much different than trading for Karlsson, who I've been adamant about being fine with as the 3C.

I agree with that value, I was just trying to emphasize that he would not be a costly pick up by trying to ponder on what his "all in" value would be maxed out currently. But Wilson for Girgenson I would do in a heartbeat.
 

PensandCaps

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I'd do Wilson and a Pick for Girgs. I bet JB likes Wilson because of his ties to the pens. And would probably make that deal.
 

Empoleon8771

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I agree with that value, I was just trying to emphasize that he would not be a costly pick up by trying to ponder on what his "all in" value would be maxed out currently. But Wilson for Girgenson I would do in a heartbeat.

Yeah I agree with that. It makes a ton of sense for that deal to go down, with Botterill's ties to the WBS crew, Buffalo being weak on LW and deep at center and Pittsburgh being deep at LW but weak at center. Wilson would either be the 2nd or 3rd line LW for Buffalo, while Girgensons would be the 3C for the Penguins. On their current teams, they're either playing in a role below their talent level or playing in a position that isn't their natural position.
 

Andy99

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Girgensons in his sophomore year was on pace for 20 goals and 40 points. I'm not totally sold on him as the 3C option, but he has certainly played at that level in the past. I don't put much stock into what he did under Bylsma, I think Penguins fans should understand that more than anyone else.


My question on him is his foot speed and hockey IQ. Face offs can be worked on to some extent. I don't think he's a great fit here but neither was Bonino
 

TheMalkinEra

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Aaron Rodgers had one word for all Penguins fan worrying about 3rd line center.....RELAX

For love of the god people were coming off back to back champships, yet so many here want to trade half the roster for some overrated jabroni named like Matt Duchesne, who many here think of second coming of Ron Francis the way people here talk about him.

And thought of Kessel, Guentzel, Rust or Wilson playing Center and people act like the Pens will miss the playoffs and win 20 games. I really hope Sprong lights it up in training camp and our top 9 has 7 wingers and 2 centers and our top 9 is something like this.

Sheary-Crosby-Sprong
Rust-Malkin-Kessel
Hagelin-Guentzel-Hornqvist

Guentzel-Crosby-Sheary
Hagelin-Malkin-Sprong
Rust-Kessel-Hornqvist

Guentzel-Crosby-Hornqvist
Sheary-Malkin-Kessel
Hagelin-Rust-Sprong

Then right before the trading deadline the Pens can get some 3rd line center who does the who the whole " corsi, intangibles, 200 foot game, defensive zone faceoffs, and the other nerd stuff" that you hockey hipsters get a little too excited about.
 
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