Friedman: Roman Josi’s contract number starts with 9
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Mick Jagr
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BonMorrison
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Also this.
Like I'm glad people are starting to clue in to the fact that Josi isn't great defensively (something us Preds fans have known since he's got here) but I feel like some of ya'll are being so self-congratulatory about coming to this realization that he's now suddenly become completely void of any defensive play at all.
He's somewhere between average and above average defensively but he's not bad.
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The thing is, "defensive" play is largely situational. There are some situations in which Josi's "defensive" play is well above average... retrieving loose pucks and keying a transition or safely handling and transporting the puck out of the defensive zone ARE elements of defense. Josi is very good at those things. He is smart positionally on the rush. He does not make many errors with the puck on his stick. He's very safe that way. Sometimes his offensive abilities lead him to play a little deeper in the offensive zone than other defenders might. But he is a good skater and gets himself back in the play as well or better than could reasonably be expected. He has good anticipation and awareness in all situations.Also this.
Like I'm glad people are starting to clue in to the fact that Josi isn't great defensively (something us Preds fans have known since he's got here) but I feel like some of ya'll are being so self-congratulatory about coming to this realization that he's now suddenly become completely void of any defensive play at all.
He's somewhere between average and above average defensively but he's not bad.
And then there are situations in which his defense is a little weaker. When an opponent has managed to maintain control in the defensive zone and is cycling the puck or making plays to the front of the net, Josi is not particularly strong at playing the body or tieing up his opponent to allow his team to recover possession. His pairing can get trapped within their zone for some longer stretches because both he and his usual partner Ellis have this same weakness.
Overall, I think the strengths largely outweigh the weaknesses, taking all elements of his defensive play into consideration.
From the perspective of the Predators' team success as a whole, I just wish we had a partner for him that complemented his style better. Ellis is just a poor match, and they draw assignments in all situations, including the PK where they are de facto starting in precisely the kind of situation which gives them the most trouble.
I was about to say the same thing about Ellis. If Josi was paired with a more defensive defenseman his defensive flaws would barely be noticed in my opinion. I just don’t think Josi and Ellis compliment each other that wellThe thing is, "defensive" play is largely situational. There are some situations in which Josi's "defensive" play is well above average... retrieving loose pucks and keying a transition or safely handling and transporting the puck out of the defensive zone ARE elements of defense. Josi is very good at those things. He is smart positionally on the rush. He does not make many errors with the puck on his stick. He's very safe that way. Sometimes his offensive abilities lead him to play a little deeper in the offensive zone than other defenders might. But he is a good skater and gets himself back in the play as well or better than could reasonably be expected. He has good anticipation and awareness in all situations.
And then there are situations in which his defense is a little weaker. When an opponent has managed to maintain control in the defensive zone and is cycling the puck or making plays to the front of the net, Josi is not particularly strong at playing the body or tieing up his opponent to allow his team to recover possession. His pairing can get trapped within their zone for some longer stretches because both he and his usual partner Ellis have this same weakness.
Overall, I think the strengths largely outweigh the weaknesses, taking all elements of his defensive play into consideration.
From the perspective of the Predators' team success as a whole, I just wish we had a partner for him that complemented his style better. Ellis is just a poor match, and they draw assignments in all situations, including the PK where they are de facto starting in precisely the kind of situation which gives them the most trouble.
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Contract starts with a 9?
$9.99 per minute x 60 mins x 24 hours x 365 days per year = $5.25 million per year.
Get it done.
$9.99 per minute x 60 mins x 24 hours x 365 days per year = $5.25 million per year.
Get it done.
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As it should. He's worth $9M and considering he's the most team-friendly deal in the league right now, he deserves a little payback.
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justanotherleafsfan
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It's one of those online things where a player's contract makes him look better than he is because other fans fantasize about hasn't him under the cap on thier team.
Josi is great but after he gets his big contract this off season that team will be upside down on his value sooner than later.
Bud, you're absolutely wrong and it's okay to admit it.I've seen Josi plenty. I couldn't honestly care less about your opinion, bud.
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nuh uhThe thing is, "defensive" play is largely situational. There are some situations in which Josi's "defensive" play is well above average... retrieving loose pucks and keying a transition or safely handling and transporting the puck out of the defensive zone ARE elements of defense. Josi is very good at those things. He is smart positionally on the rush. He does not make many errors with the puck on his stick. He's very safe that way. Sometimes his offensive abilities lead him to play a little deeper in the offensive zone than other defenders might. But he is a good skater and gets himself back in the play as well or better than could reasonably be expected. He has good anticipation and awareness in all situations.
And then there are situations in which his defense is a little weaker. When an opponent has managed to maintain control in the defensive zone and is cycling the puck or making plays to the front of the net, Josi is not particularly strong at playing the body or tieing up his opponent to allow his team to recover possession. His pairing can get trapped within their zone for some longer stretches because both he and his usual partner Ellis have this same weakness.
Overall, I think the strengths largely outweigh the weaknesses, taking all elements of his defensive play into consideration.
From the perspective of the Predators' team success as a whole, I just wish we had a partner for him that complemented his style better. Ellis is just a poor match, and they draw assignments in all situations, including the PK where they are de facto starting in precisely the kind of situation which gives them the most trouble.
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Because Josi isn’t a scum bag and still wants his team to compete whereas the other two only cared about cash, especially EK.
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Or because Doughty and Karlsson are far superior players with far superior resumes? Doughty and Karlsson have what, 3 Norris Trophies and 7 first AST appearances between the two of them? Has Josi ever even finished top-4 in Norris voting?
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Because he doesn't play in Canada.
Players in Canadian markets get shredded for every perceived imperfection.
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As a Jets fan, I sure hope so!
Honestly, could be that the reason it's supposedly going to start with a 9 is that Poile doesn't want to pay him until age 38.
Someone is probably dumb enough to pay 9x7 on the open market, but I doubt it's a contender.
I can also see there being a bit of willingness on Poile's part to sort of make up for how drastically he's overperformed compared to his salary so far. No other GM has any sense that they kinda owe him one. Seems like it's in his best interests to remain a Mustard Tiger.
How would Nashville fans feel about 9x6?
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He's not wrong. I take Pietro , six foot 3, right hand shot captain of the Stanley cup champions, 10/10 times before Josi.
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