Robert Hagg

[prototypical4thliner]

That is a good logo. This is a GREAT logo:

... although it is for Salmon Death Farts rather than Sockeyes.

I mean it could work... their team catch phrase could be “you’re about to get sockeyed”. Or “our sockeye farts gave you pinkeye”

 

[Larry44]

Yeah I have. 1987 Richmond Sockeyes and Orland kurtenbach was the coach. Centennial cup champs. Why?

Orland Kurtenbach. When I was a little kid I loved athletes with strange names. Orland was one of my faves, along with Harmon Killebrew!

 

[hatcher]

Orland Kurtenbach. When I was a little kid I loved athletes with strange names. Orland was one of my faves, along with Harmon Killebrew!

He was the greatest man on earth and he pushed us to the max. Killabrew lol.

 

[Deadpool8812]

has this clown been traded yet?

 

[Tripod]

has this clown been traded yet?

He won't be until Provy is signed.

 

[prototypical4thliner]

He won't be until Provy is signed.

Stop with all of this logic. Allow us our irrational dreams.

 

[Eye of Ra]

better this season?

 

[Striiker]

better this season?

Nope. Still not an NHL player.

He's absolutely awful.

 

[Johnk0728]

Nope. Still not an NHL player.

He's absolutely awful.

yeah....get Gostisbehere out there as soon as they can.

 

[FlyguyOX]

He's been better this season by the eye test atleast.

Ya'll quit hating on Bobby. He plays his role. He didn't hesitate at all last night to try and take out that trash wilson.

 

[TB87]

He's been better this season by the eye test atleast.

Ya'll quit hating on Bobby. He plays his role. He didn't hesitate at all last night to try and take out that trash wilson.

“He plays his role” is one of the more perplexing and/or meaningless hockeyisms out there. Every player who has ever played has been tasked with this.

 

[Rebels57]

better this season?

It's been a weird season for him. He doesn't make as many loud mistakes as in seasons past but when he is on the ice, the team is always losing the shot attempt/scoring chance battle. His PDO is absurdly high this season which suggests he has been very lucky to not hurt the team on the scoreboard more than he has. He's a good soldier but he's a poor NHL defensemen. He's just not quick enough in either foot speed or ability to read the game to be a good NHL defensemen.

He should currently be the 7th defensemen but AV doesn't want to mess with a recipe that keeps producing wins. I understand that line of thinking, but I disagree with it.

 

[FlyersAreGOAT]

Pick your poison... Ill take the two in orange

 

[FLYguy3911]

Or the guy who has gotten Norris votes before...

Year of the Hagg. Makes one of the worst plays with the puck I've seen and it turned into a Too Many Men on the Ice penalty for the Caps.

 

[Rebels57]

Pick your poison... Ill take the two in orange

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Really don't understand why Tampa added Bogosian. He's been extremely bad for years.

 

[Young Sandwich]

Or the guy who has gotten Norris votes before...

Year of the Hagg. Makes one of the worst plays with the puck I've seen and it turned into a Too Many Men on the Ice penalty for the Caps.

That play went from facepalm to wry smile in an instant. Textbook Hagg luck-heater.

 

[Deadpool8812]

Really don't understand why Tampa added Bogosian. He's been extremely bad for years.

Meh... Depth I guess

 

[FlyguyOX]

“He plays his role” is one of the more perplexing and/or meaningless hockeyisms out there. Every player who has ever played has been tasked with this.

You can't have 6 PP1-capable D-men on a team. It's true. Just like in work life it's like in sports - when people know their roles and responsibilities and are trusted with those they perform best. When they try to perform outside their capabilities is when mistakes happen.

He's a 6/7 D-man who defends our stars the best he can.

 

[Striiker]

There's no role that Hagg fulfills. He's bad at everything that matters and he even sucks at fighting.

He's an AHL D-man who makes the team worse.

 

[Starat327]

Ooh, this is good ignore thread candidate so I dont have to see the typical strawmen and lickballs.gif -ing.

 

[BritainStix]

Hagg is the reason we are winning. No doubt. His PDO ensures victory.

 

[FLYguy3911]

You can't have 6 PP1-capable D-men on a team. It's true.

This seems to be a popular rebuttal in these types of discussions. You can't have six "PP1-capable" defensemen on an NHL team because of the salary cap, not because it won't work tactically. If you want to know what a hypothetical team would look like with six defenseman of that caliber, look no further than Team Canada at the 2010 and 2014 Olympics and 2016 World Cup.

Also the Cam York selection becomes baffling if the main goal is to strive to have six defenseman all fulfilling specific roles.

 

[TCTC]

I have no problem with players serving a role. There are different game situations, so there's room for different types of players.

 

[FlyTimmo]

Hagg bad

 

[Striiker]

It really seems like every topic on this board these days comes down to people who understand the modern NHL and people who are stuck in the past or obsessed with cliches. Roles, intangibles, heaviness, fighting, etc etc etc etc...

That's the kind of stuff that's being used to defend every single bad player or bad staff decision. There doesn't need to be two opposing sides to every topic... we can all just agree that Hagg is factually a bad player and move on to something else. The contrarianism is unnecessary.