Prospect Info: Robert Hagg [March 2014: AAV is $925k, 3-yr ELC, per Tim P.]

[tictactoe]

Well we know going for the hit certainly didn't stop a scoring chance. He's the last man back going from his side of the ice all the way to the far boards. If he tries to contain or even just keep his stick on the ice maybe the pass doesn't get to Mantha and the play dies. Keep in mind this play comes directly off of a center ice faceoff after the Flyers just scored. That puck goes in, who knows what that does to the momentum of the game.

But again this wasn't the point of the clips. Every player makes multiple mistakes throughout the course of the game. But if you are a guy like Hagg who doesn't drive play and the other team has the puck a lot, eventually plays are going to break down even if Robert does everything right individually. He was +1 last night with no goals against, but Detroit had two separate chances that get converted at a 90+% clip.

It did stop scoring chance. Forward did not connect pass but he probably would have if he had space. I mean if this was Haggs 3-4 year in the league but this is his 1st year he is giving huge amount of time (more than he can handle) and he plays with MacDonald. Look at all negativity in this thread.

 

[FLYguy3911]

It did stop scoring chance. Forward did not connect pass but he probably would have if he had space. I mean if this was Haggs 3-4 year in the league but this is his 1st year he is giving huge amount of time (more than he can handle) and he plays with MacDonald. Look at all negativity in this thread.

Really? It did?

 

[tictactoe]

Really? It did?

Did he connect with the pass?

 

[FLYguy3911]

Did he connect with the pass?

Yeah. Elliot made the save.

 

[deadhead]

 

[tictactoe]

Yeah. Elliot made the save.

Just re-watched it again... you seriously blaming Hagg there? ha ha

 

[FLYguy3911]

Just re-watched it again... you seriously blaming Hagg there? ha ha

I'm not blaming Hagg for anything. Since you brought it up, I just think it was pointless to try and go for the hit there. What did it accomplish? Keep your stick on the ice. Maybe the pass still gets through, but maybe it doesn't and the play dies.

I'm done micro-analyzing every play. You are missing the point.

 

[Striiker]

Just re-watched it again... you seriously blaming Hagg there? ha ha

Yeah FLYguy, why are you blaming Hagg?

If you're not then you should let us know by making it obvious... maybe make the text big or something... and bold... maybe something like...

Never claimed these plays were all a result of Hagg.

 

[tictactoe]

Yeah FLYguy, why are you blaming Hagg?

If you're not then you should let us know by making it obvious... maybe make the text big or something... and bold... maybe something like...

OO this is not "I hate Hagg thread?".

 

[dats81]

Good old 2017 when it was all still Andrew Macdonald's fault

 

[tictactoe]

Good old 2017 when it was all still Andrew Macdonald's fault

Still is..

 

[whitstifier]

You guys just can't handle some young man jam

 

[Curufinwe]

That was a nice shot off the post in garbage time last night.

 

[onlylordsvsmorebp]

OO this is not "I hate Hagg thread?".

this isnt? whoops...im in the wrong place.

 

[whitstifier]

Outstanding rookie season so far for this one way defenseman.

 

[Frickley]

Can Hagg change his number to -8 to reflect his nightly on-ice shot differentials?

 

[Larry44]

What move and goal by Hagg today. Slick, great shot. Solid on D all year, now comes the offense...

 

[Hurricane28]

If he does that more and activates himself, then he can be an effective 2nd pair d man. Need to see more of it

 

[The Rage Kage]

Great goal but don't expect him to show that consistently.

 

[deadhead]

Hagg has been gradually taking more chances on offense, and his passing is crispier the last few weeks.
Incremental improvement, he's not going to be Provorov, but hopefully a bigger more consistent version of Gudas some day.

One reason he plays is he's strong enough to physically take on big forwards behind the net and in the corners, MacDonald isn't strong enough, Gudas has lost his mean streak, and Manning tries but isn't great at it. He was battling with the Sens forwards all afternoon.

 

[Juicy Pop]

Hagg was just using Ultra Instinct.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Wasn't there something about Borowiecki being a top 4 guy?

 

[Magua]

He is still missing so many easy breakout passes -- if he does pass it and not just blindly fling it. He did today.

Here are his stats pre and post new year:

Pre: 8.6 iCF/60, 2.3 iSCF/60, 0.7 rebounds/60

Post: 11.88 iCF/60, 2.09 iSCF/60, 0.64 rebounds/60


His shot rate has increased paired with MacDonald, but it's not like it's leading to anything. They're just usually unscreened shots and low danger chances that end possession, often when there's a better play available if he had any poise/hockey sense with the puck. He made a nice play today. Singular. We can laugh and give him credit for it without acting like it's a precursor for things to come. Every dog has their day (and another one did today!). But Hagg didn't do anything crazy. Borowiecki whiffed on his hit, Hagg is a strong kid, he skated in, made a nice shot. /fin

 

[Striiker]

Now he truly is Grossmann 2.0

He has all the rest of it down, now hes got the ultra-rare dangle-and-snipe once or twice per season.

 

[Larry44]

Hagg has been gradually taking more chances on offense, and his passing is crispier the last few weeks.
Incremental improvement, he's not going to be Provorov, but hopefully a bigger more consistent version of Gudas some day.

One reason he plays is he's strong enough to physically take on big forwards behind the net and in the corners, MacDonald isn't strong enough, Gudas has lost his mean streak, and Manning tries but isn't great at it. He was battling with the Sens forwards all afternoon.

I really liked the play he made in the slot vs. CBJ the other night, bumping Big Boone Jenner out of the slot like he was hitting a little kid. Very strong on his skates.