Robbie Schremp

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  1. shaner89

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    sorry Oiler fane but this guy just doesnt do it. I know hes the top scorer in the ohl, but in a tournament like this, he showed absolutely nothing. he was invisible out there. no excuses for him, he had an awful tournament. he had all the ice time in the world, good players with him, and did nothing.
     
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    Many players do nothing in these types of tournaments. It happens. It has nothing to do with his chances of making the Oilers. That US team has no chemistry whatsoever.
    Sure he hasn't played as well as many may have thought he would, but Oilers fans aren't going to sit and cry about it. As long as he's done the little things management has asked him to work on this season, he'll be in Oil silks next year.
     
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    Eh.. I didnt think he looked bad. Infact when Pierre started ragging on him I was pretty suprised.. as Robbie seemed to be one of the only players who looked dangerous for the Americans last night.
     
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    Heh...

    Has there ever been a 25th overall pick that was a lightning rod for so much polarized opinions?

    Hell, people still throw out the 'He walked out on the Ice Dogs!' thing like it was a slap in the face to them, and that happened over 2 years ago.

    Whatever...if the WJHC is the litmus test for superstardom, then why is Jani Rita still a press box superstar after the tourney he had in '01?

    Schremp may or may not turn into an impact NHLer, but it amazes me how so many people give off a vibe like they *want* him to fail.
     
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    This tournament may be an indicator of true quality or not mean much. I dont know, I was expecting Voloshenko (top scorer in the AHL prior to the tournament) and Radulov (ripping apart the Q) to do well.... but they have been unimpressive at best when compared to quite a few of their teamates.

    Who knows, maybe Shremp just dosen't fit in well with an all-star kinda team?
     
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    I agree. Of the games I've seen, he was one of the better Americans. It's too bad because the whole team kind of gave up on itself.
     
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    Who gave up? I don't think any one member of the U.S. team bailed on each other, it just wasn't a good mix and other teams were better.
     
  8. Sammy*

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    As an Oiler fan, its getting me concerned that as soon as the game picks up a knotch, Schrem seems to have difficulty keeping pace. I was comcerned about his skating/quickness before, and this WJC , Memorial Cup & the tail end of the Oiler training camp leaves me more concerned.
     
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    Schremp is a guy who for some reason I've never been able to put my finger on about. He's a guy with a load of skill, but I'm not sure it will translate into the pros as much. That's just been my impression of the guy ever since his rookie year in the OHL. He may be good in the OHL but if you want to pick an American that will stand out in the NHl its Jack Johnson for sure. Man that kid is a blue chipper! I disagree with the elbow he did on Downie but to me it shows that he has a mean streak in him in the mold of a Hatcher. That's all right considering he has Chelios type skills.
     
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    My biased opinion

    I thought he played well. Everyone was raging on Kessel because he didn't have goal but had more then 20 shots in the tournament and so did Schremp. They were both getting their chances. When your getting more then 3 shots a game then you must be doing something right.... snake bitten perhaps?.... because we know he can shoot.

    It's not like he didn't produce at all. Did have a point a game 1 g 5 assists.

    I would have liked him to put a couple more of those shots top hand corner like I've seen him do many times and a shooting percentage around 5 is bad. That being said, I think he carried the puck well out of his zone and in trafic well. He also got open and made some nice passes that didn't even end up as shots let alone goals.

    Look for reasons why they lost if you like but I don't think he was the problem.
     
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    The thing with Schremp is that he shoooots so damn much that something has to go in eventually. I remember in the Mem cup last year he had a lot of shots in what i beleive was the final. But couldnt even hit the net. I think the problem with him is he tries to go post and in or make a perfect shot. Just get the damn puck on goal is what he will have to learn, it wont do the team any good if misses the net 60% of the time
     

  12. He's never been quick. You should have seen him with the Syracuse Stars junior team in his pre-OHL days...his skating was laughable.

    Rob Schremp will never be fast. In my opinion his skating ability isn't bad per se; but he'll certainly never be confused with Paul Coffey or Mike Gartner.

    But as a winger (he will NOT be a center for the Oil if they know what is good for them) on the PP...he'll be ambrosia for the Oilers when they are up a man or two. Also, the moment he makes the Oil, he'll have at worst one of the 5 best shots on the team. The kid's pure skill set is imposing. If used correctly, he could be a outstanding pure scorer, which IMO the Oilers have lacked a bit for the past few years.
     
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    Could it be that he needs to be the cornerstone of a team and not thrown in with players who will have their names higher on the marquee like kessel? Keep in mind I have no opinion of him whatsoever as I havent been able to watch or listen to any of his games. I gather from reading the game threads that he didn't get much ice time except for the power play and maybe that is a situation he cannot handle? curiosity here, not making assertions
     
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    I thought Schremp was pretty good on the powerplay at times, and when the game slowed down and he could shift along the outside and make some passes and plays. He also had some solid passes in the offensive zone. I was also surprised at the timing of McGuire's comments, because Schremp had just come off a solid shift (but Pierre was ranting about something else at that time).

    My concern - which is the same in watching OHL games - is he really doesn't generate that much in transition or with speed. It is the same with Bobby Ryan in a lot of ways. It is really only when the game is slowed down and a lot of guys are standing still (power play and the cycle) that he becomes effective.

    It doesn't mean he'll be a bust. But it does mean it will take him a little longer to adjust to the speed of the NHL (where guys don't stand around as much) and that the Oil will have to be patient. Schremp will also have to work really hard to adapt, and he'll get frustrated at times. But that's going to be the same for most prospects.
     
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    Before you all start flaming me first off a am an Oiler fan and watch every game i can. In preseason Robbie was affective playing the hash marks and controling the PP . Watching team USA that job was already filled by a better player in Phil Kessel. Robbie was out of place and maybe it would of been in his best interest not to be invited. The problem i have with when he becomes an Oiler is we already have Ales Hemsky doing what Robbie does. I guess if somehow Robbie just finds open ice so Hemsky can set up his shot then he can be affective. There is no question he has a major league shot. Brett Hull wasnt the most fleet of foot but he knew where to be to get off that lazer shot of his. I am not comparing Robbie to Brett Hull but Hull could look like he was doing nothing all game and all of a sudden he comes from nowhere and scores a goal. The Oilers realize Robbie will probubly not be a center and they also know he has not learned to be as affective as he could 5 on 5 and that is why he is in the OHL and not the NHL right now. I also dont think a year or two will hurt him in the AHL. Robbie might be one of those guys that all he does is scores goals. And as for this tournament i just dont think he fit what Walt Kyle needed. I think he got more icetime against the russians then in previous games but how do you give guys a few 2nd PP minutes all tourney then expect them to shine when your team has their backs against the wall.
     
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    Well the coach certainly did not play him to his strengths. He should have been the man on the PP because he has a leathal shot - but Shremp and Ryan were buried in favor of Kessel, Oshie and Bourque who were pretty much ineffective. I thought Shremp did quite a few nice things last night - he was actually one of the only Americans who even attempted to work with his linemates. His pass to set up Friche for a break in the 2nd was great and he also created a number of point blank shots from his favorite spot breaking in off the half boards by himself - he just couldnt bury them. What I saw was Shremp looking for someone to give him a decent pass so he could unload his shot in any kind of scoring position and it NEVER happened. This was a very selfish US team (the endless Kessel outmanned rushes were pointless) and the NCAA bias was clear for anyone to see. Even though they played Kessel's line to death against the Czech's and had nothing left last night - the coaching staff just kept shoving them out there shift after useless shift and plus mondo PP time.

    As for Shremp going forward - play to his strength's and you will have a useful player - but he will have to continue working on his skating (which was much better IMHO) and ES play. Shremp will be good as a PP specialist that you have to protect at ES quite a bit in his early days. He is what he is - more Steve Sullivan than Joe Sakic - but still very useful.
     
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    I agree Pierre lit into him and Schremp had been creating chances for his teammates and getting some quality chances for himself. He will be an unbelievable player on the PP at the NHL level. The US powerplay was crap anyway take away the Norway game. Schremp was not the guy I would be targeting for getting nothing done. Chris Bourque? What did he do? Less than invisible, do not attack him though because Ray will come after you. ********. Bourque got the key minutes and along with Bobby Ryan got nothing done against the US. Skille did less than nothing until he knocked that puck out of the air.
     
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    When you don't utilize your players strengths, and you play them with guys that don't mesh, *** do you expect??? As it stood, he could've had 4-5 goals if he were "on" at the time. He can be a streaky scorer, when he's on he's deadly, when he's not, he still creates rebounds. As for the fan that says that Hemsky does the same job??? Hemsky is usually on the LW boards, and he doesn't shoot anywhere as often as Schremp. They will compliment each-other very well when Robbie becomes an Oiler. Hemsky's speed and play-making ability will greatly benefit Schremp, and Schremp's shot and play-making ability will greatly benefit Hemsky.
     
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    I agree with the thread starter. Maybe I was expecting too much as this was the first extended look I've had of Schremp (I don't catch too many London Knight games,) and I was really disappointed. The first thing I noticed is he's really greedy, Kessel looks like a pass-first guy compared to Shremp. I wouldn't mind him shooting so much if he didn't miss the damn net so much. He must have completely missed the net on like 98 % of his shots in this tournament. I guess I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, due to some of the circumstances in this particular tournament, but I was not impressed, and all I've seen from Shremp so far is lots of attitude.
     
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    Robbie Schremp and Bobby Ryan have both been very disappointing in this tourney .
     
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    How long were you waiting in the shaddows, praying to God, Santa, Madonna, for Schremp to give his first mediocre performance on national T.V. so that you could go back to your Schrempo bashing... Well fear not ***-clown!! Your day is here - go nuts. Guys like you are rediculous.. last I checked, nobody on Team USA showed up for the SemiFinal... that includes other great players like Ryan, Kessel, Oshie, & Jack Johnson... give your head a shake. :shakehead
     
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    Thing I noticed is that Schremp never had the puck. I think if you're going to star, offensively, at the next level you have to a person that has the puck and can control the play. Schremp status as an upper level NHL player is very questionable.
     
  23. wildone26*

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    He has totally sucked, but he also has been demeaned by the coaches. Why on earth has only been on the 3rd line and benched for times, for example he did not play at all in the last 10 minutes of the Czech-U.S quarterfinal. He has sucked, but the coaches also seem to have given him a demeaning role given how well he has been playing the OHL this year.
     
  24. wildone26*

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    I also dont think he has any future in Edmonton. Think about he is considered, apparently, to not be good enough to play on the top 2 lines on a U.S team that was only good enough to finish 4th at the World juniors. In fact he was considered to have such a minimal role on the team, he was even benched for half-periods and full periods in a few games on a team that was only good enough to finish 4th at the World juniors.
     
  25. power play specialist.
     
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