Robbie Schremp or Kris Chucko?

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oil slick

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I'd probably choose Schremp - but I'm not really sold he'll have that great a career... it's just I really don't think Chucko will be a top 6 forward.
 

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From what ive seen, Schremp will be a Comrie'ish player in the NHL. I have no clue who Choochoo is. hopefully he'll turn out to be a Cleary. u ask why? I say because I hate the flames! :dunno:
 

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Chucko is still our most physical player. If all he did again this year was skate hit people and fall down. He would be looked as showing no improvements. He is still young and raw. There are few if any 19 year old true power forwards that are the best on the score sheet and the most physical on the ice. He improves his game and people knock him for not being a one dimensoal power player anymore. I said this on another board. But i can remember at least 3 goals of Chuckos where the puck never touced his stick. He is still going to the net hard. He is still playing in front of the net. Just no bounces. Not his fault. Blame the gopher d for shooting high and wide mostly. Last year he was just under a half point a game this year he is just over a half point a game.

I honestly do not think you can be taught to be a goal scorer. But you can teach skating, passing, physical and possesional play. Chucko is allready a leader. And with his willingness to learn. The sky is still the limit. The sky is not going to fall on him but i think he still has a long way before i will say just how good he is. For a guy like Chucko i think all you can go by is his improvment. And he still is improving.
 

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Attica said:
Amen!

"But, Syvret is full of skill and is just learning how to utilize it!"

this is what that sounds like to me:

*makes motion and sound of masturbation*
Again, there were something like 650 picks between Phaneuf and Syvret.

Chucko and Schremp were drafted one after the other.
 

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Seachd said:
Again, there were something like 650 picks between Phaneuf and Syvret.

Chucko and Schremp were drafted one after the other.
Picks or days?
 

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MN_Gopher said:
I honestly do not think you can be taught to be a goal scorer. But you can teach skating, passing, physical and possesional play. Chucko is allready a leader. And with his willingness to learn. The sky is still the limit. The sky is not going to fall on him but i think he still has a long way before i will say just how good he is. For a guy like Chucko i think all you can go by is his improvment. And he still is improving.
That's what I like to hear :handclap:

Maybe Chucko isn't as impressive as Schremp now, but as long as he's still improving, then like you said, thats all you can really ask for.

Like I said above and you confirmed, Chucko is a very, very raw player. It will be a long time before we figure out what kind of player Chucko really is. Is he... Eric Nystrom? Brendan Morrow? Jamie Langenbrunner? Ryan Smyth? Adam Deadmarsh? ... dare I dream, Jarome Iginla?
 

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MN_Gopher said:
Chucko is still our most physical player. If all he did again this year was skate hit people and fall down. He would be looked as showing no improvements. He is still young and raw. There are few if any 19 year old true power forwards that are the best on the score sheet and the most physical on the ice. He improves his game and people knock him for not being a one dimensoal power player anymore. I said this on another board. But i can remember at least 3 goals of Chuckos where the puck never touced his stick. He is still going to the net hard. He is still playing in front of the net. Just no bounces. Not his fault. Blame the gopher d for shooting high and wide mostly. Last year he was just under a half point a game this year he is just over a half point a game.

I honestly do not think you can be taught to be a goal scorer. But you can teach skating, passing, physical and possesional play. Chucko is allready a leader. And with his willingness to learn. The sky is still the limit. The sky is not going to fall on him but i think he still has a long way before i will say just how good he is. For a guy like Chucko i think all you can go by is his improvment. And he still is improving.

I agree with all of this. He's playing smart hockey and has noticeabley improved from last year. If he continues to work and develop at this pace, I think he could easily develop into a second liner, and I swear, this kid is going to wear a "C" in the NHL someday. His shot never struck me as great, but I think it's underrated in its velocity ... he just needs to work on the accuracy.
 

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Big points don't impress me. Excuting your complete assignment impresses me. To date, Schremp reeks of Pavel Brendl. Big points, no committment to the game. If that's what floats your boat, you're all over Schremp. If you like guys that have grown as players you are likely more impressed by the job Chucko has done. But knowing these boards, points are the only guage that matters, so Schremp will win this in a landslide.

No commitment to the game??? Are you kidding me??? This kid is one of, if not our hardest working prospect(s). Schremp has worked hard every off-season on his skating and he has worked very hard to be more responsible defensively. If you think that he has no commitment, then you had better commit to getting the facts before you start spewing negative things about a player that you seem to have read a draft article about and built your entire opinion on it. That's one of the most ridiculous things that I've ever heard on this board.
 

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Phanuthier said:
That's what I like to hear :handclap:

Maybe Chucko isn't as impressive as Schremp now, but as long as he's still improving, then like you said, thats all you can really ask for.
what, Schremp isn't improving? I'm sure Schremp knows what he has to work on to play in the NHL...why do you think he's not there this year?

RIGHT NOW, I'd take Robbie Schremp any day of the week and twice on game days...
when Perry and Syvret left last year, everyone thought the PP would suffer a little...but so far this season it hasn't missed a beat and Schremp is the reason why....the guy is averaging almost 4 point per game!
 

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e-townchamps said:
what, Schremp isn't improving? I'm sure Schremp knows what he has to work on to play in the NHL...why do you think he's not there this year?
Where did I say anything about Schremp not improving?
 

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O.k., just for the record, I know zilch about Chucko, but I know a fair bit about Schremp. Robbie will be a star in this league and it is really un-fair to be compairing the 2 IMO. A better comparison maybe JF Jacques Vs. Chucko, as Chucko sounds like a similar player to the Crazy Train. IMO if he ends up in the same league as Jacques, then the Flames have themselves a solid prospect. BTW-Flames fans, I like Prust as a solid 3rd/4th liner, so I'm not just trying to stir the pot here.
 

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Well, okay now he is "unimpressive" against NCAA.... Well anyhow, to end this string, NCAA is more competitive than CHL, as for Shremp vs Chucko only time will tell.

The only thing the NCAA has on the CHL is older, more physically mature guys. In an average year there is *way* more talent in the CHL then the NCAA. Not even close.
 

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Syvret was passed over in his first draft year, incase you were wondering how that is possible.


actually, he was passed over in his first TWO draft years. And his third he didn't go until the 3rd round. Makes you wonder how many big stooges where drafted before him who's only way to an NHL game would be through buying a ticket.
 

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RUSqueelin said:
actually, he was passed over in his first TWO draft years. And his third he didn't go until the 3rd round. Makes you wonder how many big stooges where drafted before him who's only way to an NHL game would be through buying a ticket.

Boris Valabik comes to mind as I read this
 

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gotta ask yourself: how many players have the potential of being a PP specialist with a lethal shot like Schremp?

or a great 3rd/4th line grinder that's great in his own zone and might pop a few in like Chucko?

defense can be taught...offense can't...I'll take Schremp and his wicked shot anyday of the week
 

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e-townchamps said:
gotta ask yourself: how many players have the potential of being a PP specialist with a lethal shot like Schremp?
Does it matter, can you name me one "powerplay specialist" that is wanted in the leauge right now?

You've got a slow, skating disablied player like Jamie Allison on the block right now, because he can only put up points on the powerplay... that's how wanted those players are.
 

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MrMastodonFarm said:
Does it matter, can you name me one "powerplay specialist" that is wanted in the leauge right now?

You've got a slow, skating disablied player like Jamie Allison on the block right now, because he can only put up points on the powerplay... that's how wanted those players are.

It's Jason Allison

Why do people always refer to Schremp as a power play specialist? Like that is all he does and that's the only thing he'll do in the NHL?

Just because Edmonton thought about keeping him on the team for a bit to be used on the power play to break him in DOES NOT MEAN HE IS JUST A POWERPLAY SPECIALIST! :eek:
 

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RUSqueelin said:
Why do people always refer to Schremp as a power play specialist? Like that is all he does and that's the only thing he'll do in the NHL?
The Edmonton fan is the one who said it, not me, but it's true. It's a nice way of saying "slow one dimensional schlub"
 

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Rabid Ranger said:
Since when is Schremp limited to the PP?
Don't know, ask e-townchamps, he is the one throwing out powerplay specialist.

Although with his lack of skating, speed, grit etc, it's not like he's going to be that effective anywhere else.
 

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Oh well, I guess he'll just have to make do with his enormous talent. :)

BTW thanks everyone for your input. Just wanted an outside opinion, and I got what I wanted. :)
 

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I can't believe how badly people are still under-rating Schremp. He has worked on his skating every summer in a special training camp in Sask. His speed has drastically increased since last year. His shot is just as heavy with more accuracy now. His passes are still jaw dropping and his coach has praised him repeatedly for his new commitment to defense. Yes he gets a lot of points on the PP, but what NHL star doesn't? He is still over a PPG even strength. How many of Jagr's and Naslands goal come on the PP, do you see NY or Van complaining?

Now I like Chucko, but I don't think he is quite in the same league. No offense to him at all. I think he'll make a good 2nd/3rd line player. But right now Schremp is showing all world skill and production. Sure, the Flames may have made a mistake by passing on him, but so did 23 other teams. And every team in every draft ends up passing on some kid they shouldn't have. Hardly anything new.

He fell and the Oilers got lucky. So Edm has a big time prospect, is that really so hard to accept? We sure accept Phaneuf as ligit.
 
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