Injury Report: Rielly to IR

[jrgtml67]

Reilly on IR...Valiev recalled. I assume retro to saturdays game. So should be back after allstar game.

This is the scenario I feared. Losing 1 of our top D before we had made a trade. Say Reilly isnt back after allstar weekend we would then be a lot more desperate to aquire a D..thusly other GMs will know they can raise the price slightly. We already have zaits out till mid feb. Imagine Hainsey gets hurt this week. Something tells me we may well see a deal this week/weekend.

 

[Schenn]

Valiev being recalled definitely means we have moved in from Marincin on the big club.

 

[56 Years No Cup]

I'll go ahead and say I absolutely believe we need what Polak brings. But I'll also say he can't be the guy to bring it, and we're better off without it if he's the only option.

Borgman is that guy. Let him play and learn.

 

[ULF_55]

Borgman is that guy. Let him play and learn.

I think Borgman has much higher upside than Polak.

Polak is an okay hitter and decent skater, but Borgman I think is more a Kronwall type hitter, skates well, and can carry the puck.

If they move on from Gardiner, Dermott and Borgman could be 2nd. and 3rd. pairing on the left, with Zaitsev, Liljegren and ? on the right.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Reilly on IR...Valiev recalled. I assume retro to saturdays game. So should be back after allstar game.

This is the scenario I feared. Losing 1 of our top D before we had made a trade. Say Reilly isnt back after allstar weekend we would then be a lot more desperate to aquire a D..thusly other GMs will know they can raise the price slightly. We already have zaits out till mid feb. Imagine Hainsey gets hurt this week. Something tells me we may well see a deal this week/weekend.

I do not think you'd see a desperation move. The Leafs still have some good performing defensemen in the wings on the Marlies.

I think you'd see them move depth from up front, like a Rychel, for an equivalent defenseman at best.

 

[MapleLeafs9]

Should've recalled Liljegren. And no, I don't care if he's only 18.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Valiev being recalled definitely means we have moved in from Marincin on the big club.

Not necessarily. Just needed to have someone sit in the press box and why not give a guy on a hot streak a chance in the NHL?

 

[Anthrax442]

We gave up on Valiev?

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Should've recalled Liljegren. And no, I don't care if he's only 18.

He's hurt.

And to sit in the press box? I guess you could put him with Dermott and make it the AHL top pairing and sit Carrick, but I think that's a lot for him to handle.

And before you say Polak, we'd have literally have Hainsey as our only legit and proven PKer. Gardiner on the PK is already risky, and one of those young guys is getting thrown into the deep end as it is.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

We gave up on Valiev?

I did. Well I did not see much in him in the first place, but his last 10 or so games have been impressive. However the 60 games before that were not great though.

His IQ has never impressed me much. Kind of like the Marlie version of Gardiner but not nearly as talented.

Maybe he can show something. He has a shot, and if he can do something with it, that could make some depth guys (i.e. Carrick) more expendable even if we are competing.

 

[MapleLeafs9]

He's hurt.

And to sit in the press box? I guess you could put him with Dermott and make it the AHL top pairing and sit Carrick, but I think that's a lot for him to handle.

And before you say Polak, we'd have literally have Hainsey as our only legit and proven PKer. Gardiner on the PK is already risky, and one of those young guys is getting thrown into the deep end as it is.

Sheesh he's hurt again? Did he not just start playing again since he got back from the WJC? Hope this doesn't become a common occurrence with the kid.

 

[Anthrax442]

He's hurt.
.

He played last nite. Why spread fake news.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

He played last nite. Why spread fake news.

I thought he was still hurt? Did not watch the game last night.

May also be the reason they did not want him to play... He's coming off of an injury and would have to play his first NHL game with very little support coming off of a back to back.

Not worth it. The Leafs have good enough defensemen in the lineup and in reserve to not have to risk Liljegren.

 

[Stephen]

He played last nite. Why spread fake news.

Wasn't he hurt last night?

 

[Anthrax442]

Wasn't he hurt last night?

Keefe said he was just bruised

 

[LeafsNation75]

 

[A1LeafNation]

My thinking is that the kids need limited minutes to ease them in and to be sat ince in a while. It's the ONLY reason Polak is still the NHL.

 

[jrgtml67]

You misunderstood. I meant this; its obvious we need help on D already IF Reillys injury is more longterm then it somewhat forces our hand. Who you are talking about on the Marlies is beyond me...besides Timmy but he isnt ready yet. Rosen is a giveaway expert..still shoots and misses way wide 90% of the time.

Im not saying we go and make a top 4 D move..infact Id like another Hainsey type. Maybe Johnson from CBJ? Only issue is he shoots L. Anyway ya

 

[stickty111]

Keefe said he was just bruised

Doesnt matter if it was a bruise, he still got hurt yesterday. It wasnt fake news.

 

[Legion34]

Silver lining. Do the z and rielly injuries
Help our cap at all? With bonus overages etc for next year? Z has missed what 15 games? That has to be like a million in savings no?

 

[LeafsNation75]

Silver lining. Do the z and rielly injuries
Help our cap at all? With bonus overages etc for next year? Z has missed what 15 games? That has to be like a million in savings no?

I don't know about that but with Auston Matthews going to the All Star Game again, he gets a bonus in his contract that effects the cap for next year.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

My thinking is that the kids need limited minutes to ease them in and to be sat ince in a while. It's the ONLY reason Polak is still the NHL.

Believe it or not, the Leafs actually have a decent record when Polak plays more than garbage minutes in a game.

Especially when you consider a lot of those games came without Zaitsev and Matthews in the lineup.

 

[justafan22]

Not necessarily. Just needed to have someone sit in the press box and why not give a guy on a hot streak a chance in the NHL?

Mirtle has said that marincin is likely done for good with the leafs

 

[Daisy Jane]

Should've recalled Liljegren. And no, I don't care if he's only 18.

you may not care, but i think the organization has pretty much been consistent with the fact that they aren't going to rush people up here without cause. there are a few other people they should see before Liljergren. if anything to see who to let go from

 

[Anthrax442]

Doesnt matter if it was a bruise, he still got hurt yesterday. It wasnt fake news.

Mid season everyone hurts, injury is a different story.