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Eb0la11 said:I really wish Canucks fans would stop praising their one semi blue chip prospect
You come into a thread entitled "Richards or Kesler" and complain people are talking about Kesler (and Richards).
Eb0la11 said:I really wish Canucks fans would stop praising their one semi blue chip prospect
me2 said:You come into a thread entitled "Richards or Kesler" and complain people are talking about Kesler (and Richards).
Eb0la11 said:LOL no I was moreso complaining about Canucks fans who actually think they have the best quality of players in the entire league in every category including net and prospects, which they obviously dont. Also I have seen Richards a heck of alot more than the WJC, I went to all 3 of the summer training camp in Calgary (where Im from) as well as seen him on TV a few times, Ive seen him at least ten times. Yes my viewing of Kesler is quite limited as he plays not so near to me or on TV where I live. But, based on what I have seen, read, his draft position and Richards draft position and comparability to players drafted above him now (him surpassing alot of those higher drafted players on depth charts) leads me to the opinion Richards is quite a bit better.
Eb0la11 said:LOL no I was moreso complaining about Canucks fans who actually think they have the best quality of players in the entire league in every category including net and prospects, which they obviously dont. Also I have seen Richards a heck of alot more than the WJC, I went to all 3 of the summer training camp in Calgary (where Im from) as well as seen him on TV a few times, Ive seen him at least ten times. Yes my viewing of Kesler is quite limited as he plays not so near to me or on TV where I live. But, based on what I have seen, read, his draft position and Richards draft position and comparability to players drafted above him now (him surpassing alot of those higher drafted players on depth charts) leads me to the opinion Richards is quite a bit better.
Eb0la11 said:LOL no I was moreso complaining about Canucks fans who actually think they have the best quality of players in the entire league in every category including net and prospects, which they obviously dont. Also I have seen Richards a heck of alot more than the WJC, I went to all 3 of the summer training camp in Calgary (where Im from) as well as seen him on TV a few times, Ive seen him at least ten times. Yes my viewing of Kesler is quite limited as he plays not so near to me or on TV where I live. But, based on what I have seen, read, his draft position and Richards draft position and comparability to players drafted above him now (him surpassing alot of those higher drafted players on depth charts) leads me to the opinion Richards is quite a bit better.
cj said:
Find me one Canucks fan on this entire site that believes the Canucks have the best prospects and the best goaltender in the NHL. No really, try and find one.
Look, it's fairly obvious that there's not much to be excited about in the Canucks system. So you'll have to forgive us if we get extra-excited about one of the few good prospects we have. How good Kesler is has nothing to do with how good the rest of the system is.
But to get back on topic, in your opinion, what makes Richards quite a bit better than Kesler? Is it homeristic to consider Kesler on the same level as Richards? We're talking about two very similar types of players, drafted one after the other in the same draft year, that have both progressed very well since being drafted. I'm not quite sure I see the problem here.
Eb0la11 said:LOL no I was moreso complaining about Canucks fans who actually think they have the best quality of players in the entire league in every category including net and prospects, which they obviously dont.
Pepper said:Canucks are in the bottom-5 when it comes to prospects on my rankings but Kesler is a good prospect.
Offensively they could be quite even but Richards has something special that takes him to another level (defense, grit, leadership).
Rabid Ranger said:Another level than who, Kesler? From what I've seen, Kesler exhibits those qualities in spades.
Pepper said:Not as much as Richards IMHO.
Pepper said:Not as much as Richards IMHO.
monster_bertuzzi said:Kesler's defese>Richards' defence
Kesler's offence>>Richards' offence
Kelser's size>>>Richards' size
monster_bertuzzi said:Kesler's defese>Richards' defence
Kesler's offence>>Richards' offence
Kelser's size>>>Richards' size
Have you ever seen Ryan Kesler play hockey? Most of these people in here are just people who have seen Richards play at the WJC, or a few games. There is no way that either of these players are better than the other at offense or defense, its a pretty even comparison. Ryan Kesler has shut-down some of the best AHL players this year, while scoring 30 goals, too. Mike Richards is also a nice player, and I'm sure both will turn out to be 3rd/2nd line studs for their respective teams.Panasonic Youth said:Richards scored a goal in his first professional game and a short handed goal in his third game. Just this year he was rated unanimously by ohl coaches to be the best penalty killer. I will agree with Kesler's size being better than Mike Richard's but the other two are off IMO.
Kesler's defence<<Richard's defence
Kesler's offence<Richard's offence
Kesler's size>>Richard's size. (He's three to four inches taller depending which source you looking at.)
jtuzzi21 said:Richards offense >= Keslers offense
Richards defense =< Keslers defense
Richards size << Keslers size
Panasonic Youth said:Richards scored a goal in his first professional game and a short handed goal in his third game. Just this year he was rated unanimously by ohl coaches to be the best penalty killer. I will agree with Kesler's size being better than Mike Richard's but the other two are off IMO.
Kesler's defence<<Richard's defence
Kesler's offence<Richard's offence
Kesler's size>>Richard's size. (He's three to four inches taller depending which source you looking at.)
sevenSteen said:Richards definately. Kesler is overrated.