Revisiting Shea Weber for PK Subban.

[HabsQC]

Revisiting this topic 5 years later is telling. Yes, Subban was a charismatic goal scoring defenseman, marketable on and off the ice (he did a great deal in Montreal, giving time and money to Sainte-Justine, a children's hospital). He reached the finals before Weber with Nashville and earned a Norris in 2013. At this point, it seemed that the Preds had won that deal, hands down.

But, while Subban's defensive shortcomings were exposed in New Jersey, a battered Weber still managed decent seasons with the Habs. And, out of the two, I think Weber wins this in the long run, especially for the intangibles that he brought to the team, such as his skills as a leader and mentor.

Subban's Norris was with the Habs

 

[Mortimer]

Subban's Norris was with the Habs

I know, I was simply reflecting about Subban accomplishments when Nashville got him.

 

[Lshap]

Didn't we also flip Subban into picks/prospects and end up with Afanasyev out of the deal? He's not looking as promising as he once was, but should be a decent NHL player for a while.

Montreal traded Weber for Dadonov, then traded Dadonov with retention for Gurianov and then chose not to tender Gurianov. Preds signed Gurianov and traded him for Wade Allison.

Weber's value to Montreal ended up being for his leadership. Looking at it today, there may not be assets left, but he surely had an impact on a young Nick Suzuki that is today our team's leader.

I doubt Nashville's plan was to get Subban so they could trade him for assets three years later.

Subban and Weber were both terrific for their new team, except Weber gave Montreal two more years as their #1D and team Captain.

 

[Breakers]

Subban was a canuck if Columbus said any other name than PLD at the podium in 2016

then the trade happens
and it is probably talked about about one of the worst landslide trades in history

Horvat
# 5 pick which was (PLD)
Tanev

Oooofffff

 

[triggrman]

In the end it was a win-win, but I think it really worked out better for MTL in a sense b/c Weber played better+longer for them than Subban did for Nashville. (Surprisingly given the age difference)

Luckily Nashville did move Subban before the wheels fell off & his contract became deadweight.

Really Weber only played 66 more games for Montreal than Subban did for Nashville, not including playoffs.