Return the Supra

[Winger98]

Toyota is resurrecting its super car. I always leaned towards Nissan Z line, but Toyota's Supra (and Mazda's RX line) always get a second look from me on the street. As expected, the new one looks amazing.

Great to see this thing back on the road.

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[PeterSidorkiewicz]

I was a little disappointed mainly because of how it's pretty much a BMW. I would have liked Toyota to take a stab at a car like this on their own and see how they do.

 

[Suxnet]

It's pretty disappointing.

 

[MAHJ71]

Ugh... this looks awesome!

 

[Baby Punisher]

Toyota is resurrecting its super car. I always leaned towards Nissan Z line, but Toyota's Supra (and Mazda's RX line) always get a second look from me on the street. As expected, the new one looks amazing.

Great to see this thing back on the road.

I like it. It kind of reminds me of a coupe Hyundai put out in the late 90's early 2000's.

 

[Jags68]

lol, looks like a Hyundai on the outside and BMW knock off in the inside.

 

[Preds Partisan]

The first one, VIN 20201, just sold for $2.1 million at Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale this weekend.

 

[RichWVU]

The first one, VIN 20201, just sold for $2.1 million at Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale this weekend.

More like the car + a $2m charity write off sold for $2.1m.

 

[Baby Punisher]

It reminds me of the Hyundai Tiburon.

 

[MAHJ71]

It reminds me of the Hyundai Tiburon.

Except a lot better looking

 

[Bedards Dad]

lol, looks like a Hyundai on the outside and BMW knock off in the inside.

Its not a BMW knock off, it IS a BMW on the inside.


Also OP, its a sports car, the Supra was never a super car.

 

[Suxnet]

Early reviews are in and they're saying it's fun to drive. That just makes it even more sad because Toyota could have made something really special here. I've warmed up to the looks of it a bit, but I just can't get over that it is 90% BMW. With Toyota parts and manual transmission I would buy one asap.

 

[ThreeLeftSkates]

Toyota needed Subaru for the last sporty car they built, losing their edge?

 

[Albatros]

Toyota needed Subaru for the last sporty car they built, losing their edge?

2000GT was built and largely designed by Yamaha, so even their most famous sports car was like ten percent Toyota.

 

[RichWVU]

2000GT was built and largely designed by Yamaha, so even their most famous sports car was like ten percent Toyota.

I'd have a really hard time giving the 2000GT the title of Toyota's "Most Famous" sports car over the MkIV Supra.

 

[Albatros]

Depends on the market I guess, in Japan it's 2000GT or Sprinter Trueno and in Europe probably Celica.

 

[beowulf]

Just read this week that it only comes as automatic (8 speed), the death of the traditional manual transmission. Sucks.

 

[Hammettf2b]

Was really excited when I heard it was coming back only to be majorly disappointed.

 

[LarryFisherman]

Just read this week that it only comes as automatic (8 speed), the death of the traditional manual transmission. Sucks.

i think even the next-gen subaru's have autos. it totally blows a dick.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

It looks like utter garbage. It looks too much like that crotch rocket that Toyota and Subaru made the exact same of, just a little bigger.

They could have made a nice car, instead they made a boring one.

 

[member 157595]

I was just talking about the original with a co-worker the other day.

This just looks...meh. Not terrible but not exciting and the original was exciting.

And TO HELL with it only coming with a god damned automatic.

 

[Winger98]

I really don't get the love for manual transmissions outside of nostalgia and personal preference. Which is fine, but being an automatic does nothing to hold back any real aspect of a car.

 

[RichWVU]

I really don't get the love for manual transmissions outside of nostalgia and personal preference. Which is fine, but being an automatic does nothing to hold back any real aspect of a car.

I mean, you're right in that today's automatics and DCTs are objectively better than a manual in every tangible, measurable way. But a manual absolutely adds character and driver involvement (for better or worse) to the driving experience. I would certainly consider those to be "real aspects" of a car like the new Supra which is going to be a weekend toy and source of enjoyment.

I'm not a manual fanboy by any means, but I fully understand where folks are coming from when they say a purpose built, 2-seat sporty car should at least have an optional third pedal.

 

[member 157595]

I really don't get the love for manual transmissions outside of nostalgia and personal preference. Which is fine, but being an automatic does nothing to hold back any real aspect of a car.

It's not necessarily about superiority. An automatic with paddle-shift option is without a doubt technically superior. It's about the user experience.

I mean, you're right in that today's automatics and DCTs are objectively better than a manual in every tangible, measurable way. But a manual absolutely adds character and driver involvement (for better or worse) to the driving experience. I would certainly consider those to be "real aspects" of a car like the new Supra which is going to be a weekend toy and source of enjoyment.

I'm not a manual fanboy by any means, but I fully understand where folks are coming from when they say a purpose built, 2-seat sporty car should come with three pedals.

Exactly.

I don't care if a manual isn't the standard (no pun intended) transmission but I do hate that it's not even available.

 

[Winger98]

I mean, you're right in that today's automatics and DCTs are objectively better than a manual in every tangible, measurable way. But a manual absolutely adds character and driver involvement (for better or worse) to the driving experience. I would certainly consider those to be "real aspects" of a car like the new Supra which is going to be a weekend toy and source of enjoyment.

I'm not a manual fanboy by any means, but I fully understand where folks are coming from when they say a purpose built, 2-seat sporty car should at least have an optional third pedal.

This I can get behind. I probably feel something similar when I see the new Zs and Nissan doesn't offer a t-top or a 2+2.