Reorder the 1990 first round

Jyrki21

2021-12-05
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The 1990 draft is, in many ways, the gold standard of NHL entry drafts in the modern era. A ton of stars came out of the first round, and it was this draft which I used to post this line of questioning of Offthepost.net.

Here's how it looked in real life:

1 QUE Owen Nolan R
2 VAN Petr Nedved L
3 DET Keith Primeau C
4 PHA Mike Ricci C
5 PGH Jaromir Jagr R
6 NYI Scott Scissons C
7 LA Darryl Sydor D
8 MIN Derian Hatcher D
9 WAS John Slaney D
10 TOR Drake Berehowsky D
11 CGY (NJ) Trevor Kidd G
12 MTL (STL) Turner Stevenson R
13 NYR Michael Stewart D
14 BUF (WPG) Brad May L
15 HFD Mark Greig R
16 CHI Karl Dykhuis D
17 EDM Scott Allison W
18 VAN (MTL) Shawn Antoski L
19 WPG (BUF) Keith Tkachuk L
20 NJ (CGY) Martin Brodeur G
21 BOS Bryan Smolinski C

A couple ironies to note right off the bat... both switches of first-round picks (WPG/BUF and NJ/CGY) seem to have backfired for the teams trading up...

Using these players only, you can do it all again... what's your order? I imagine we'll see a lot of Brodeur #1 and Jagr #2, but there's a fair bit of wiggle room. Scott Scissons third overall, perhaps? :sarcasm:

Here's your template to work with:

1 QUE
2 VAN
3 DET
4 PHA
5 PGH
6 NYI
7 LA
8 MIN
9 WAS
10 TOR
11 CGY (NJ)
12 MTL (STL)
13 NYR
14 BUF (WPG)
15 HFD
16 CHI
17 EDM
18 VAN (MTL)
19 WPG (BUF)
20 NJ (CGY)
21 BOS
 

Jaydepps

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1 QUE Martin Brodeur
2 VAN Jaromir Jagr
3 DET Darryl Sydor
4 PHA Owen Nolan
5 PGH Keith Tkachuk
6 NYI Keith Primeau
7 LA Petr Nedved
8 MIN Mike Ricci
9 WAS Bryan Smolinski
10 TOR Derian Hatcher
11 CGY (NJ) Karl Dykhuis
12 MTL (STL) Drake Berehowsky
13 NYR Brad May
14 BUF (WPG) Turner Stevenson
15 HFD Trevor Kidd
16 CHI John Slaney
17 EDM Mark Greig
18 VAN (MTL) Shawn Antoski
19 WPG (BUF) Scott Scissons
20 NJ (CGY) Scott Allison
21 BOS Michael Stewart
 

wabwat

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i think that even looking back in retrospect and NOT using subsequent NHL accomplishments as the sole primer, the top three picks (at least) would've likely remained the same...
 

knifer

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1 QUE Jagr
2 VAN Brodeur
3 DET Tkachuk
4 PHA Hatcher
5 PGH Nolan
6 NYI Primeau

7 LA Nedved
8 MIN Sydor
9 WAS Smolinski
10 TOR May
11 CGY (NJ) Ricci
12 MTL (STL) Kidd
13 NYR Dykuis
14 BUF (WPG) Berehowsky
15 HFD Stevenson


Talking prime years here, meaning those 4-5 years when these players showed their dominance. IF it wasnt talking only the main prime years, id put Brodeur ahead of Jagr, but Jagr dominated a league with kip miller and jan hrdina skating alongside him.
4/5/6 could be swapped depending on what you like. In the old NHL Derian Hatcher was one of the most dominating shut down Dmen in the league, big and strong and mean. Nolan could be a PPG player and still end the year with over 150 pims, tough and a nice shot. Primeau had all the tools to be one of the most dominating centers throught out his career but would only flash moments of brilliance, in my mind he has one of the nicest sets of hands for a guy that big and rough.
 

weaponomega

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1 QUE - Jagr
2 VAN - Brodeur
3 DET - Tkachuk
4 PHA - Nolan
5 PGH - Primeau
6 NYI - Nedved
7 LA - Sydor
8 MIN - Hatcher
9 WAS - Ricci
10 TOR - Smolinski
11 CGY (NJ) - Kidd
12 MTL (STL) - May
 

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at first glance 6 of those players have played for philly. weird
 

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1 QUE Jaromir Jagr
2 VAN Martin Brodeur
3 DET Keith Tkachuk
4 PHA Derian Hatcher
5 PGH Owen Nolan
6 NYI Mike Ricci
7 LA Keith Primeau
8 MIN Petr Nedved
9 WAS Darryl Sydor
10 TOR Bryan Smolinski
11 CGY (NJ) Trevor Kidd
12 MTL (STL) Brad May
13 NYR Turner Stevenson

I give Ricci the edge of Primeau because he was a two-time Selke finalist. Primeau would have won it in 2004; we can't go off of would haves and should haves.
 

Ola

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i think that even looking back in retrospect and NOT using subsequent NHL accomplishments as the sole primer, the top three picks (at least) would've likely remained the same...

Everyone knew Jagr where better Nedved back then too, though Neds had already bolted to US, and it were allot of uncertaintys concerning guys like Jagr.
 

joe blow

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I suppose I can give it a try:

1 QUE Martin Brodeur G
2 VAN Jaromir Jagr R
3 DET Darryl Sydor D
4 PHA Keith Primeau C
5 PGH Keith Tkachuk L
6 NYI Owen Nolan R
7 LA Mike Ricci C
8 MIN Derian Hatcher D
9 WAS Bryan Smolinski C
10 TOR Petr Nedved L
11 CGY (NJ) Brad May L
12 MTL (STL) John Slaney D (Gotta support the hometown guy, great skill, poor effort, bad circumstances)
13 NYR Drake Berehowsky D
14 BUF (WPG) Trevor Kidd G
15 HFD Turner Stevenson R
16 CHI Karl Dykhuis D
17 EDM Scott Allison W
18 VAN (MTL) Mark Greig R
19 WPG (BUF) Scott Scissons C
20 NJ (CGY) Shawn Antoski L
21 BOS Michael Stewart D
 

puck_08

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1 QUE Jaromir Jagr R
2 VAN Martin Brodeur G
3 DET Keith Tkachuk L
4 PHA Owen Nolan R
5 PGH Derian Hatcher D
6 NYI Keith Primeau C
7 LA Mike Ricci C
8 MIN Petr Nedved L
9 WAS Bryan Smolinski C
10 TOR Darryl Sydor D
11 CGY (NJ) Trevor Kidd G
12 MTL (STL) Karl Dykhuis D
13 NYR Brad May L
 

shortcat1

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I suppose I can give it a try:

12 MTL (STL) John Slaney D (Gotta support the hometown guy, great skill, poor effort, bad circumstances)

i know that this isn't directly related but, at the time i figured it would be great to get him... he was the guy who scored, with a blast from the point, the gold medal winning goal for canada at the wjc...
i forget what year but i do remember the ecstatic reaction by the team, especially him when it happened... what a high that must have been...
 

The Viking Fury

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Think of how different things would be in the NHL. Maybe the devils make a play for Roy, since the Avs would have had Brodeur. Or The Avs with Jagr. Or the Canucks with Jagr in '94

Jagr - Center - Bure anyone?
 

TomWaits

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1 JAGR TOR - (TRADED BY QUE FOR GARY LEEMAN
2 BRODEUR - TOR (TRADED BY VAN FOR MARIOS)
3 Tkachuk - TOR (Traded by Det from Tom Fergus)
4 Nolan - TOR (Traded by PHA for 9 yr old Brad Boyes and 11 yr old Alyn McCauley)
5 Primeau -TOR (Trade by PGH Mike Stevens (Brother of Scott Stevens))

ahhh if only!:party:
 

Kickassguy

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1 QUE Martin Brodeur
2 VAN Jaromir Jagr
3 DET Keith Tkachuk
4 PHA Keith Primeau
5 PGH Owen Nolan
6 NYI Derian Hatcher
7 LA Mike Ricci
8 MIN Darryl Sydor
9 WAS Bryan Smolinski
10 TOR Petr Nedved
11 CGY (NJ) Brad May
12 MTL (STL) Turner Stevenson
13 NYR Karl Dykhuis
14 BUF (WPG) John Slaney
15 HFD Trevor Kidd
16 CHI Shawn Antoski
17 EDM Drake Berehowsky
18 VAN (MTL) Scott Allison
19 WPG (BUF) Scott Scissons
20 NJ (CGY) Michael Stewart
21 BOS Mark Greig
 

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