Reorder the 1990 first round

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  1. Jyrki21

    Jyrki21 Todellakaan ole suomalaista Sponsor

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    The 1990 draft is, in many ways, the gold standard of NHL entry drafts in the modern era. A ton of stars came out of the first round, and it was this draft which I used to post this line of questioning of Offthepost.net.

    Here's how it looked in real life:

    1 QUE Owen Nolan R
    2 VAN Petr Nedved L
    3 DET Keith Primeau C
    4 PHA Mike Ricci C
    5 PGH Jaromir Jagr R
    6 NYI Scott Scissons C
    7 LA Darryl Sydor D
    8 MIN Derian Hatcher D
    9 WAS John Slaney D
    10 TOR Drake Berehowsky D
    11 CGY (NJ) Trevor Kidd G
    12 MTL (STL) Turner Stevenson R
    13 NYR Michael Stewart D
    14 BUF (WPG) Brad May L
    15 HFD Mark Greig R
    16 CHI Karl Dykhuis D
    17 EDM Scott Allison W
    18 VAN (MTL) Shawn Antoski L
    19 WPG (BUF) Keith Tkachuk L
    20 NJ (CGY) Martin Brodeur G
    21 BOS Bryan Smolinski C

    A couple ironies to note right off the bat... both switches of first-round picks (WPG/BUF and NJ/CGY) seem to have backfired for the teams trading up...

    Using these players only, you can do it all again... what's your order? I imagine we'll see a lot of Brodeur #1 and Jagr #2, but there's a fair bit of wiggle room. Scott Scissons third overall, perhaps? :sarcasm:

    Here's your template to work with:

    1 QUE
    2 VAN
    3 DET
    4 PHA
    5 PGH
    6 NYI
    7 LA
    8 MIN
    9 WAS
    10 TOR
    11 CGY (NJ)
    12 MTL (STL)
    13 NYR
    14 BUF (WPG)
    15 HFD
    16 CHI
    17 EDM
    18 VAN (MTL)
    19 WPG (BUF)
    20 NJ (CGY)
    21 BOS
     
  2. Jaydepps

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    1 QUE Martin Brodeur
    2 VAN Jaromir Jagr
    3 DET Darryl Sydor
    4 PHA Owen Nolan
    5 PGH Keith Tkachuk
    6 NYI Keith Primeau
    7 LA Petr Nedved
    8 MIN Mike Ricci
    9 WAS Bryan Smolinski
    10 TOR Derian Hatcher
    11 CGY (NJ) Karl Dykhuis
    12 MTL (STL) Drake Berehowsky
    13 NYR Brad May
    14 BUF (WPG) Turner Stevenson
    15 HFD Trevor Kidd
    16 CHI John Slaney
    17 EDM Mark Greig
    18 VAN (MTL) Shawn Antoski
    19 WPG (BUF) Scott Scissons
    20 NJ (CGY) Scott Allison
    21 BOS Michael Stewart
     
  3. wabwat

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    i think that even looking back in retrospect and NOT using subsequent NHL accomplishments as the sole primer, the top three picks (at least) would've likely remained the same...
     
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    1 QUE Jagr
    2 VAN Brodeur
    3 DET Tkachuk
    4 PHA Hatcher
    5 PGH Nolan
    6 NYI Primeau

    7 LA Nedved
    8 MIN Sydor
    9 WAS Smolinski
    10 TOR May
    11 CGY (NJ) Ricci
    12 MTL (STL) Kidd
    13 NYR Dykuis
    14 BUF (WPG) Berehowsky
    15 HFD Stevenson


    Talking prime years here, meaning those 4-5 years when these players showed their dominance. IF it wasnt talking only the main prime years, id put Brodeur ahead of Jagr, but Jagr dominated a league with kip miller and jan hrdina skating alongside him.
    4/5/6 could be swapped depending on what you like. In the old NHL Derian Hatcher was one of the most dominating shut down Dmen in the league, big and strong and mean. Nolan could be a PPG player and still end the year with over 150 pims, tough and a nice shot. Primeau had all the tools to be one of the most dominating centers throught out his career but would only flash moments of brilliance, in my mind he has one of the nicest sets of hands for a guy that big and rough.
     
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    1 QUE - Jagr
    2 VAN - Brodeur
    3 DET - Tkachuk
    4 PHA - Nolan
    5 PGH - Primeau
    6 NYI - Nedved
    7 LA - Sydor
    8 MIN - Hatcher
    9 WAS - Ricci
    10 TOR - Smolinski
    11 CGY (NJ) - Kidd
    12 MTL (STL) - May
     
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    Anyone that has Sydor over Hatcher didnt watch hockey in the 90s.
     
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    too bad the Canucks didn't have Jagr in 94.
     
  8. HoverCarle*

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    at first glance 6 of those players have played for philly. weird
     
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    Not in todays NHL. Philly has always been big on the retread and only one of those players stuck with his original team.
     
  10. 1 QUE Jaromir Jagr
    2 VAN Martin Brodeur
    3 DET Keith Tkachuk
    4 PHA Derian Hatcher
    5 PGH Owen Nolan
    6 NYI Mike Ricci
    7 LA Keith Primeau
    8 MIN Petr Nedved
    9 WAS Darryl Sydor
    10 TOR Bryan Smolinski
    11 CGY (NJ) Trevor Kidd
    12 MTL (STL) Brad May
    13 NYR Turner Stevenson

    I give Ricci the edge of Primeau because he was a two-time Selke finalist. Primeau would have won it in 2004; we can't go off of would haves and should haves.
     
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    Everyone knew Jagr where better Nedved back then too, though Neds had already bolted to US, and it were allot of uncertaintys concerning guys like Jagr.
     
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    I suppose I can give it a try:

    1 QUE Martin Brodeur G
    2 VAN Jaromir Jagr R
    3 DET Darryl Sydor D
    4 PHA Keith Primeau C
    5 PGH Keith Tkachuk L
    6 NYI Owen Nolan R
    7 LA Mike Ricci C
    8 MIN Derian Hatcher D
    9 WAS Bryan Smolinski C
    10 TOR Petr Nedved L
    11 CGY (NJ) Brad May L
    12 MTL (STL) John Slaney D (Gotta support the hometown guy, great skill, poor effort, bad circumstances)
    13 NYR Drake Berehowsky D
    14 BUF (WPG) Trevor Kidd G
    15 HFD Turner Stevenson R
    16 CHI Karl Dykhuis D
    17 EDM Scott Allison W
    18 VAN (MTL) Mark Greig R
    19 WPG (BUF) Scott Scissons C
    20 NJ (CGY) Shawn Antoski L
    21 BOS Michael Stewart D
     
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    Damn, Minny should've been all over Tkachuk!
     
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    9 total which is even wierder

    Greig, Stevenson, Antoski, Dykhuis, Nedved, Primeau, Ricci, Hatcher, and Slaney
     
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    1 QUE Jaromir Jagr R
    2 VAN Martin Brodeur G
    3 DET Keith Tkachuk L
    4 PHA Owen Nolan R
    5 PGH Derian Hatcher D
    6 NYI Keith Primeau C
    7 LA Mike Ricci C
    8 MIN Petr Nedved L
    9 WAS Bryan Smolinski C
    10 TOR Darryl Sydor D
    11 CGY (NJ) Trevor Kidd G
    12 MTL (STL) Karl Dykhuis D
    13 NYR Brad May L
     
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    i know that this isn't directly related but, at the time i figured it would be great to get him... he was the guy who scored, with a blast from the point, the gold medal winning goal for canada at the wjc...
    i forget what year but i do remember the ecstatic reaction by the team, especially him when it happened... what a high that must have been...
     
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    Flames could have had Brodeur... :cry:
     
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    Think of how different things would be in the NHL. Maybe the devils make a play for Roy, since the Avs would have had Brodeur. Or The Avs with Jagr. Or the Canucks with Jagr in '94

    Jagr - Center - Bure anyone?
     
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    1 JAGR TOR - (TRADED BY QUE FOR GARY LEEMAN
    2 BRODEUR - TOR (TRADED BY VAN FOR MARIOS)
    3 Tkachuk - TOR (Traded by Det from Tom Fergus)
    4 Nolan - TOR (Traded by PHA for 9 yr old Brad Boyes and 11 yr old Alyn McCauley)
    5 Primeau -TOR (Trade by PGH Mike Stevens (Brother of Scott Stevens))

    ahhh if only!:party:
     
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    how differant would the last 15 years have looked had the nucks drafted jgr at #2 and brodeur at #18:shakehead :shakehead :shakehead
     
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    1 QUE Martin Brodeur
    2 VAN Jaromir Jagr
    3 DET Keith Tkachuk
    4 PHA Keith Primeau
    5 PGH Owen Nolan
    6 NYI Derian Hatcher
    7 LA Mike Ricci
    8 MIN Darryl Sydor
    9 WAS Bryan Smolinski
    10 TOR Petr Nedved
    11 CGY (NJ) Brad May
    12 MTL (STL) Turner Stevenson
    13 NYR Karl Dykhuis
    14 BUF (WPG) John Slaney
    15 HFD Trevor Kidd
    16 CHI Shawn Antoski
    17 EDM Drake Berehowsky
    18 VAN (MTL) Scott Allison
    19 WPG (BUF) Scott Scissons
    20 NJ (CGY) Michael Stewart
    21 BOS Mark Greig
     

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