Referees, power plays and ''let them play''
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I agree, but at the same time, Stoner
knew how dangerous that hit was.... Let's hope for the sake of humanity he never tries that again.
IMO, injury shouldn't be a factor if a player is being reckless.
That's fine,
If you want 5-6 hour long games, call everything in the book...absolutely, without a doubt,
Like I said before, players, coaches, GMs and owners don't want it,
Ergo, it's not going to happen.
If officials went by the book they would be calling penalties every 30-seconds.
IMO, its really up to the players. The more nasty they get, the more a trivial infraction will be overlooked.
No no, players would adjust...like they did right after the lockout...no really, players are angels and they would adjust....
That's the argument on the other side there....argued by guys that have never really played the game...
Caeldan
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They did adjust, and then over time in the interests of 'game management' - the old rules have been allowed to creep back in.
And if you're going to argue with hyperbole, let me pull out the fallacy bingo card. I think I can knock off at least 3 or 4 squares.
No, they didn't adjust, there still 10-12-14 power plays a game, and it wasn't in the interest of game management, it was in the interest of saving defenseman from getting absolutely hammered....
If you think it's anything like pre-lock out, you are not paying close attention..
Stuff in front of the net has been called a penalty. A lot of stuff. The Hawks have committed many infractions in front of their net that hasn't been called (e.g., Crawford slash, Keith holding), but so have the Ducks. That's just the way this series is being called, and it's the way most series are called.
However, when players are away from the goal and with a distinct offensive advantage, the refs are not allowing extra leeway. Hossa got a weak holding call on Getzlaf in game 3 which directly lead to a goal; it was away from the net.
If you don't understand why the officials might allow more in front of the net than away from it, I call into question your experience playing and reffing the game.
They will adjust to what they can and can't get away with.
Every game is different.
The officials know this.
IMO, most fans have no on ice experience so it is difficult for them to understand why a penalty in one case is called but in a similar situation its not. Most fans don't understand that the officials will usually warn a player who is testing boundaries before he makes a call.
No, no no, all I've heard is that you don't need on ice experience to see what a call is, or how a game is called,
I mean, if you aren't a brain surgeon you can still tell if he did a good job..right? Or a cop....etc,
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Well I can clearly say when a cop says he was afraid for his life, but ran into the dangerous situation, that he probably is not being very straight-forward or is just not very good at his job. But this is not a political board.
But you just said how a game is called. All referee teams have different standards and make different calls and thats just a huge crock of ****, imho.
If you ever read the Puck Daddy interview of Tim Peel, you will remember that he was asked about calling a dive on a high stick and he felt he had to make the call because the league wanted to crack down on diving. Even though in that situation he called the dive from center ice when the ref down low was calling the high stick and not a dive. So referees do have a narrative to follow and will force calls in spots that make no sense except to fit what they were told to do.
Well I can clearly say when a cop says he was afraid for his life, but ran into the dangerous situation, that he probably is not being very straight-forward or is just not very good at his job. But this is not a political board.
But you just said how a game is called. All referee teams have different standards and make different calls and thats just a huge crock of ****, imho.
If you ever read the Puck Daddy interview of Tim Peel, you will remember that he was asked about calling a dive on a high stick and he felt he had to make the call because the league wanted to crack down on diving. Even though in that situation he called the dive from center ice when the ref down low was calling the high stick and not a dive. So referees do have a narrative to follow and will force calls in spots that make no sense except to fit what they were told to do.
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Are you saying it's a crock of **** because it's true,
Or are you saying it's a crock of **** because it's not true?
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Ragamuffin Gunner
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So I assume you don't think the Hawks should have gotten that late PP in game 4?
Forget pps the Hawks could be down 2 men and still find a way to win.....
This team has won in just about every position you an think of....
Its crazy.
Ragamuffin Gunner
Lost in the Flood
You didn't answer my question. Were you upset that the Hawks got a ticky-tacky PP in the last mins of regulation or not?
Why would I be upset as a Hawks fan?
Seems anti-Hawks fans have an excuse for everything.... Good teams put nonsense behind them... Advercity is part of the game....
Ragamuffin Gunner
Lost in the Flood
Considering that there are 60 mins in a game, I'd say that 8 left are the last mins.
So you only want the refs to call a good game when it doesn't benefit the Hawks? As long as the Hawks the the PP you're ok with ticky-tacky **** being called. Sounds about right.
It goes both ways.....
I'm not going to get bent over penalties and pretend the Hawks should have won despite reality.
If the Ducks take that into the game tonight they will lose.
Ragamuffin Gunner
Lost in the Flood
This is a penalty thread. If you don't want to "get bent over penalties" why talk about how refs shouldn't call ticky-tacky **** just to even up games only to retract when your favorite teams gets the benefit from it?
You wouldn't understand what calling a good game consists of, so putting into words what is fair won't compute in your mind...
Put it like this - Kesler is a problem - he has a problem with the rules and he enjoys pushing boundaries, so don't be shocked when he gets called.
Retaliation on a missed call is justified within reason.
Remember the Hawks aren't the big bad physical team going into this series.
IcedCapp
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Your inability to answer a simple question is amusing. Though I assume your refusal to answer is actually a subtle acknowledgement of the point being made.
