Mlotek
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That torn rotator cuff probably didn't help.Regular season...
Was took 4 months to recover from the surgery following the playoffs.
That torn rotator cuff probably didn't help.Regular season...
That torn rotator cuff probably didn't help.
Was took 4 months to recover from the surgery following the playoffs.
It's definitely more than slight. And that's my biggest issue with how he's ranked in the hoh forum. So many other players get extra credit for injuries and what ifs but not Yzerman. It's overlooked by the arrival of Bowman and the narrative that Yzerman sacrificed his peak offensive for defense. While it's true he did alter his game to be more aggressive defensively his the bigger factor in his offensive drop off were the injuries. Younger people also forget or just don't know how much more difficult it was to come back from a major knee injury back then. The medical abilities are so much more advanced now it skews what older players went through. If it weren't for injuries and stoppages Yzerman would have been close to 800 goals and 2000 points but nobody ever talks about that.It sure didn't, it also made his contract negotiations more difficult. In my opinion while he maintained being a very good player I never felt he got back to the same level he was pre-shoulder injury.
No shame in that, I think too often people don't account for that when looking at these guys, like oh that is nothing the team said 6 months so we should be good. There is a gruesome reality that some of these guys are never the same and even if they still play at a high level they are robbed of certain parts of their game. There are a lot of younger (well not even just younger anymore) but Wings fans that really only know 90s Yzerman, and he was an all-time great. But the Stevie Wonder years guy of the 80's before the knee and then back, he was on a different level than most here know him as. The difference might be slight, but it is still there.
Cause without taking hypotheticals into account, Yzerman is still top 10 in goals, assists, and points on a 20+ year career.It's definitely more than slight. And that's my biggest issue with how he's ranked in the hoh forum. So many other players get extra credit for injuries and what ifs but not Yzerman. It's overlooked by the arrival of Bowman and the narrative that Yzerman sacrificed his peak offensive for defense. While it's true he did alter his game to be more aggressive defensively his the bigger factor in his offensive drop off were the injuries. Younger people also forget or just don't know how much more difficult it was to come back from a major knee injury back then. The medical abilities are so much more advanced now it skews what older players went through. If it weren't for injuries and stoppages Yzerman would have been close to 800 goals and 2000 points but nobody ever talks about that.
Ysebaert often scored from ~60ft out, just inside the zone charging down the wing & blistering a slapper on 1990/1 Nintendo lol.My first thoughts were ysebaert and garpenlov but neither are actually good answers.
Dmitri Bykov, Dman.
No, that would be Murphy in 2001. Bykov played with Lidstrom in 2003. I don't remember how much they played together that year.Wasn't he Lidstroms partner when he won his first Norris?