Proposal: Rebuild Hawks

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Here are 2 Hawks trades that could help all teams included

Jets
W Laine 6.75 1 yr ufa
C Perreault 4.125 1 yr ufa
Ld Forbort 1.0 1 yr ufa
C Lowry 2.92 1 yr ufa
C/W Little 5.292 4 yr ufa LTIR

Hawks
C Toews 10.5 3 yr ufa
LD Keith 5.539 3 yr ufa
C D. Strome 2.0 ? rfa

Hawks pick up a little over 2 m in salary
Toews and Keith waive NMC to go home and help Jets win cup

Sabres
Rd Miller 3.875 2 yrs ufa
Rd Montour 3.85 1 yr ufa
C Asplund .845 1 yr rfa
C Mittlestadt 1.5 ? rfa

Hawks
Rw Kane 10.5 3 yrs ufa
C/W Little 5.292 4 yr ufa LTIR

Hawks get out of Little contract get all kinds of flex ability for 21-22 season
Kane waives NMC to come home to help Sabres make playoffs
Kane- Eichel- Hall line would be scary

Ok take out Asplund or Mittlestradt and add unprotected 21 1st

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TO COL - Kane
TO CHI - Johnson, Burakovsky, Byrum, 1st in 2020, 1st in 2021 (if COL wins cup)

TO NYR - Smith, Kravtsov, Strome (RFA) & Lemeiux (RFA)
TO CHI - Toews & Keith
 
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TO NYR - Smith, Kravtsov, Strome (RFA) & Lemeiux (RFA)
TO CHI - Toews & Keith
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TO COL - Kane
TO CHI - Johnson, Burakovsky, Byrum, 1st in 2020, 1st in 2021 (if COL wins cup)

TO NYR - Smith, Kravtsov, Strome (RFA) & Lemeiux (RFA)
TO CHI - Toews & Keith

What’s the incentive for Chicago to make that deal with New York?
 

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Sabres
Rd Miller 3.875 2 yrs ufa
Rd Montour 3.85 1 yr ufa
C Asplund .845 1 yr rfa
C Mittlestadt 1.5 ? rfa

Hawks
Rw Kane 10.5 3 yrs ufa
C/W Little 5.292 4 yr ufa LTIR


It's been 10 years and we're still making Miller for Kane BUF/CHI proposals. When will the madness end?

Seriously though, that package for Kane is not... good. The Hawks are giving up Kane and the most exciting piece they're getting back is Mittlestadt? The deal would start with Cozens, then you add Mittlestadt, then you add the necessary pieces for salary/picks.
 

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The Hawks should definitely trade these three players if possible, but these returns are awful.
 

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Here are 2 Hawks trades that could help all teams included

Jets
W Laine 6.75 1 yr ufa
C Perreault 4.125 1 yr ufa
Ld Forbort 1.0 1 yr ufa
C Lowry 2.92 1 yr ufa
C/W Little 5.292 4 yr ufa LTIR

Hawks
C Toews 10.5 3 yr ufa
LD Keith 5.539 3 yr ufa
C D. Strome 2.0 ? rfa

Hawks pick up a little over 2 m in salary
Toews and Keith waive NMC to go home and help Jets win cup

Sabres
Rd Miller 3.875 2 yrs ufa
Rd Montour 3.85 1 yr ufa
C Asplund .845 1 yr rfa
C Mittlestadt 1.5 ? rfa

Hawks
Rw Kane 10.5 3 yrs ufa
C/W Little 5.292 4 yr ufa LTIR

Hawks get out of Little contract get all kinds of flex ability for 21-22 season
Kane waives NMC to come home to help Sabres make playoffs
Kane- Eichel- Hall line would be scary
Who are you Stan Bowman?
 
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Here are 2 Hawks trades that could help all teams included

Jets
W Laine 6.75 1 yr ufa
C Perreault 4.125 1 yr ufa
Ld Forbort 1.0 1 yr ufa
C Lowry 2.92 1 yr ufa
C/W Little 5.292 4 yr ufa LTIR

Hawks
C Toews 10.5 3 yr ufa
LD Keith 5.539 3 yr ufa
C D. Strome 2.0 ? rfa

Hawks pick up a little over 2 m in salary
Toews and Keith waive NMC to go home and help Jets win cup

Sabres
Rd Miller 3.875 2 yrs ufa
Rd Montour 3.85 1 yr ufa
C Asplund .845 1 yr rfa
C Mittlestadt 1.5 ? rfa

Hawks
Rw Kane 10.5 3 yrs ufa
C/W Little 5.292 4 yr ufa LTIR

Hawks get out of Little contract get all kinds of flex ability for 21-22 season
Kane waives NMC to come home to help Sabres make playoffs
Kane- Eichel- Hall line would be scary
1)You do not trade 22 years goal scorer for 32 yr old c's and 37 year old d-men unless you are convinced they put you over the top. Jets didn't make the playoff so this is not them in any way.

2)Buffalo isn't near a playoff spot let alone a cup run. Pre Hall signing I would have put them at 2nd-5th most ping pong balls. No shot they add that salary and age.
 

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TO COL - Kane
TO CHI - Johnson, Burakovsky, Byrum, 1st in 2020, 1st in 2021 (if COL wins cup)

TO NYR - Smith, Kravtsov, Strome (RFA) & Lemeiux (RFA)
TO CHI - Toews & Keith

so we are giving you toews and Keith, who can still do heavy lifting for a cup run

AND

we are taking Brendan smiths awful contract off your hands at full hit and all we get is kravtsov, and RFAs strome and lemieux?

lol
 
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Not sure if Kane has a NTC but if the Hawks move him it’s certainly for nothing less the Canadiens got for Pacioretty : a prime blue chip prospect, a 2nd round pick and a valuable roster player.

so for Buffalo yeah, it would have to include Cozens or Quinn
 
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Not sure if Kane has a NTC but if the Hawks move him it’s certainly for nothing less the Canadiens got for Pacioretty : a prime blue chip prospect, a 2nd round pick and a valuable roster player.

so for Buffalo yeah, it would have to include Cozens or Quinn

I mean, I think we're on the same page here, but Kane's value is light years ahead of MaxPac's.
 

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Toews might be tough to move. Kane and Kieth, possibly with partial or full retention, could be moved easily. Chicago is in a perfect position to rebuild. Three years from now they'd probably have a developing young team and tons of cap space.
 

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Here are 2 Hawks trades that could help all teams included

Jets
W Laine 6.75 1 yr ufa
C Perreault 4.125 1 yr ufa
Ld Forbort 1.0 1 yr ufa
C Lowry 2.92 1 yr ufa
C/W Little 5.292 4 yr ufa LTIR

Hawks
C Toews 10.5 3 yr ufa
LD Keith 5.539 3 yr ufa
C D. Strome 2.0 ? rfa

Hawks pick up a little over 2 m in salary
Toews and Keith waive NMC to go home and help Jets win cup

Sabres
Rd Miller 3.875 2 yrs ufa
Rd Montour 3.85 1 yr ufa
C Asplund .845 1 yr rfa
C Mittlestadt 1.5 ? rfa

Hawks
Rw Kane 10.5 3 yrs ufa
C/W Little 5.292 4 yr ufa LTIR

Hawks get out of Little contract get all kinds of flex ability for 21-22 season
Kane waives NMC to come home to help Sabres make playoffs
Kane- Eichel- Hall line would be scary

This is not a rebuild plan, it’s just a plan to dump current contract commitments. The problem with these proposals are there are not enough “futures” coming back to Chicago. It’s great that they are freeing up cap space for the future but who the hell will want to sign there if you are trading away a lot of the talent currently on the roster? At least with picks/prospects you should have the next wave of young players to move forward with.
 

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The problem with these proposals are there are not enough “futures” coming back to Chicago. It’s great that they are freeing up cap space for the future but who the hell will want to sign there if you are trading away a lot of the talent currently on the roster? At least with picks/prospects you should have the next wave of young players to move forward with.
Also, if the Hawks are trading Toews they're keeping Strome. He's a solid 2C.
 

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