Realistically, Which Calibre Of Defenceman Will Heiskanen Become?

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  1. Dr Pepper

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    He has been hyped by some as a "generational" player and that's garnered some backlash by people who have claimed he is being overhyped and overrated because of the market he plays in.


    I don't think anyone credible would argue he will be another Orr/Lidstrom, but what can he realistically be expected to be?

    Will he be in the next best tier of defencemen, consisting of players like Bourque (five Norris trophies), Coffey (three Norrises), Potvin (three Norrises), Harvey, Stevens (one of the best ever) and likely Karlsson (already two Norrises)?

    Will he fall into that Pronger/MacInnis/Shore/Park/Salming/Niedermayer tier?

    Will he be more of a Subban/Doughty/Hedman/Burns/Keith/Chara/Weber type? A superstar defenceman.

    Will he have some big seasons but be an inconsistent star or a star with a shorter prime? For example: Zubov, Hatcher, Phaneuf, Dan Boyle, Alex Edler, Dustin Byfuglien.

    Obviously he's not an Ohlund/Kaberle (a top D who would be a good 2D) or a Ozolinsh or Lowe (bottom of the barrel first pairing D).


    I think he'll fall into the Pronger tier if he fulfills his potential or the Burns tier at worst. Looking for opinions and hopefully a constructive and mature discussion.
     
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    I have never seen anything like this.
     
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    This is a solid copycat thread, good job Opie.

    Victor Hedman maybe
     
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    Here's hoping.

    Also, glad at least someone caught on. :laugh:
     
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    Are we still gonna do this copycat thread title shtick this year?

    Sighs

    As to your question I don't see why he can't be a dominant number 1 defenseman.
     
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    honestly in the Orr/Lidstrom tier
     
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    He looks like a future Norris contender. Granted, we need a bigger sample size before we can determine his calibre. I think realistically, Hedman or Doughty could be an accurate ceiling. I think someone like Rielly is his floor, I'm pretty confident this kid will be a stud
     
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    I was hoping there would be a Heiskanen thread on here, just not a copypasta title, I don't want people to think it's a joke.

    But, this guy is fun to watch. He's huge, fast, quick with the puck and tough along the boards. Plus, his stick looks like it covers an 8 foot parameter, with control, this guy is going to be fun to watch and suck to play against :/

    Edit: Plus he's a lefty. Almost every young hyped d-man is a righty, as a person who plays left handed, this makes me excite.
     
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    Au contraire, I was hoping the title would get MORE people in here, because I feel he's worth it.

    With good reason, of course, since Stars fans were waiting for last night's debut pretty much since Miro's draft day. He's done nothing to damper expectations, in fact he's only heightened them, and while the sample size is obviously miniscule thus far, it looked pretty damn promising.

    Here's his first shift (borrowed from the Miro thread in the prospects board)

     
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    A less physical Duncan Keith.
     
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    He is defence first player and always been solid as F. I doubt he will make offensive havoc a la Orr, Coffey or Karlsson. I see him somewhere between faster Teppo Numminen and Lidström if everything goes fine. Or Nierdermayer. Selke upside

    Strong words but in my lifetime I have followed hockey there has been few prospects from that imo were sure things: Selänne, Kai Nurminen (yep), S. Koivu, Aki Berg (shut up)----huge time gap and now Barkov, Aho, Laine, Heiskanen and latest Kakko.
     
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    He is pretty good.
     
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    I can see this being a decent comparison
     
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    I see a smarter and hopefully less injury prone Kris Letang.
     
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    Had a very impressive debut. Played like a vet.
     
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    Considering he plays nothing like Letang style wise, I'd say that's an interesting opinion that needs some explaining.
     
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    Heiskanen..looks good.
     
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    Third calibre.
     
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    Karlsson-level hopefully. They play such a similar style it's insane

    He is also very similar to Duncan Keith too though.

    Please tell me people finally realize why we would not trade him for Karlsson. Especially a rental Karlsson

    There's a YouTube video up there but here is a little extended version with replays:

     
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